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In reply to the discussion: Maybe Ann Selzer's poll wasn't wrong. [View all]returnee
(333 posts)69. Interesting.
So all you have to do is rig the count so it doesnt meet the standard for a recount and youre home free. Sounds like a no-win situation for the victim of rigging.
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Those rules are for state paid recounts. But recounts can be requested and paid for by the candidate
Figarosmom
Dec 18
#17
Harris apparently had no interest in scamming her supporters out of millions of dollars
tritsofme
Thursday
#46
Democrats said repeatedly that trump was entitled to do as many recounts as he wanted to pay for and
rainin
Thursday
#49
No one is saying Harris isn't "allowed" to question the results. She has chosen not to question them.
tritsofme
Thursday
#53
The Harris campaign and DNC have elite lawyers and experts. Someone like Marc Elias would be all over any actual problem
tritsofme
Thursday
#61
So all they have to do is hack the election and alter the count past the margin that would require a recount. nt
pnwmom
Thursday
#67
All the states should have paper ballots and do an automatic recount of a portion by hand
pnwmom
Friday
#102
Is there any proof of the vote being rigged? Machines hacked? No, there's not
Callie1979
Thursday
#74
I remember she wasn't leading and everyone was saying, "The polls are wrong and are Republican polls"
LeftInTX
Thursday
#41
For all campaign. Biden/Harris internals had them at best tied in most swing states...
Self Esteem
Thursday
#78
I don't necessarily think it was a trap...it definitely felt like the vibes had shifted.
Self Esteem
Thursday
#82
This is the truth. The polls were actually correct. We just cherrypicked which polls we liked.
Self Esteem
Thursday
#73
Except the voters did turn out down ballot. Supposedly millions of solid democrats voted D up and down the ballot
pnwmom
Thursday
#68
Did you run "all kinds of tests" on the day of the election? Because it came out in court in 2022
pnwmom
Sunday
#104
We have 500 machines. They are all locked and guarded behind barb wire! A hacker would need to access each machine!
LeftInTX
Sunday
#105
"I dont know how he could win other than just forcing them to spend millions to defend themselves."
SunSeeker
Dec 18
#8
I think the people and entities, who can afford it, should say: bring it on.
yellow dahlia
Dec 18
#27
and yet, said poll - when all is said and done - was desperately at odds with the actual result.
stopdiggin
Dec 18
#39
No kidding - Selzer's poll may well have been the worst poll since the infamous Literary Digest poll in 1936 predicted
Midwestern Democrat
Friday
#99
The unreported aspect is how many had uncounted provisional ballots, rejected mail-in ballots, ...
Festivito
Thursday
#43
That poll was an outlier as all of the other polls showed Trump winning but not by as much as he did
andym
Thursday
#48
People here know I am not a tinfoiler, but I think her poll was dead on right
obamanut2012
Thursday
#58