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49. Democrats said repeatedly that trump was entitled to do as many recounts as he wanted to pay for and

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Thu Dec 19, 2024, 01:08 PM

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as many court cases as were legitimate. But, then, he should have accepted the result.

Now, people on DU are twisting the rules. Kamala Harris isn't even allowed to question the results. When did that become our standard? I guarantee you we didn't apply such a strict standard to trump.

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Maybe Ann Selzer's poll wasn't wrong. [View all] yellow dahlia Dec 18 OP

All polls are subjective Nigrum Cattus Dec 18 #1

When you realize keepthemhonestO Dec 18 #15

I was thinking that same thing. luvallpeeps Dec 18 #2

A lot of minds thinking alike on this forum...of course. yellow dahlia Dec 18 #3

There are rules for recounts. Iowa was nowhere NEAR the requirements. Callie1979 Dec 18 #11

Those rules are for state paid recounts. But recounts can be requested and paid for by the candidate Figarosmom Dec 18 #17

You mean the candidate that's some $20 million in debt? Seeking Serenity Dec 18 #37

Yeah it is Figarosmom Dec 18 #40

Harris apparently had no interest in scamming her supporters out of millions of dollars tritsofme Thursday #46

Yes, there are rules for recounts Farmer-Rick Dec 18 #19

You didn't understand my reference to recounts. yellow dahlia Dec 18 #21

Just because a pollster is wrong doesnt mean the numbers "dont match up" Callie1979 Dec 18 #38

Democrats said repeatedly that trump was entitled to do as many recounts as he wanted to pay for and rainin Thursday #49

This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Thursday #51

No one is saying Harris isn't "allowed" to question the results. She has chosen not to question them. tritsofme Thursday #53

You believe without evidence that her not doing any rainin Thursday #56

The Harris campaign and DNC have elite lawyers and experts. Someone like Marc Elias would be all over any actual problem tritsofme Thursday #61

2000. Gore. rainin Thursday #65

Nope. Trump had to be done with recounts by Dec 14th! It's the law. LeftInTX Friday #90

So all they have to do is hack the election and alter the count past the margin that would require a recount. nt pnwmom Thursday #67

Is there any evidence that anything was hacked? Any fraudulent counts? No. Callie1979 Thursday #72

All the states should have paper ballots and do an automatic recount of a portion by hand pnwmom Friday #102

Yep. And democrats will scream 'accept the results!" rainin Friday #96

Interesting. returnee Thursday #69

Is there any proof of the vote being rigged? Machines hacked? No, there's not Callie1979 Thursday #74

As far as I can see... returnee Thursday #83

Sorry, no other polls showed Harris winning. Not even Harris's OWN polls. Callie1979 Thursday #85

Wrong by so much? returnee Friday #94

Trump is a sore winner. This lawsuit will be thrown out! LeftInTX Dec 18 #4

Something still smells rotten KS Toronado Dec 18 #5

She was leading in the polls but lost in turnout. LisaM Dec 18 #16

I remember she wasn't leading and everyone was saying, "The polls are wrong and are Republican polls" LeftInTX Thursday #41

We ran the wrong candidate. Frank D. Lincoln Thursday #42

We didn't have a primary TheFarseer Thursday #52

I certainly wanted Shapiro for VP. But the top wouldve been fine too Callie1979 Thursday #76

Facts are awkward things. Thank you for sharing this EdmondDantes_ Thursday #44

Harris' own internal polls showed this as well Sympthsical Thursday #60

For all campaign. Biden/Harris internals had them at best tied in most swing states... Self Esteem Thursday #78

I admittedly fell into the same trap Sympthsical Thursday #80

I don't necessarily think it was a trap...it definitely felt like the vibes had shifted. Self Esteem Thursday #82

This is the truth. The polls were actually correct. We just cherrypicked which polls we liked. Self Esteem Thursday #73

Except the voters did turn out down ballot. Supposedly millions of solid democrats voted D up and down the ballot pnwmom Thursday #68

That's hardly the only potential answer EdmondDantes_ Thursday #70

That's not true. It's actually the other way around. Self Esteem Thursday #79

Where did you get your numbers? That's not what this analysis says. pnwmom Thursday #84

The actual results. Self Esteem Friday #86

You must have a link then. Here's more about mine. pnwmom Friday #87

It's not hard to find. Self Esteem Friday #103

The results are from the official results. Not a blog. LeftInTX Friday #89

But combining the votes for Harris and Trump into a total covers up the fact pnwmom Friday #91

You specifically said they left president blank!!!! So is it switcharoo??? LeftInTX Friday #92

Did you run "all kinds of tests" on the day of the election? Because it came out in court in 2022 pnwmom Sunday #104

We have 500 machines. They are all locked and guarded behind barb wire! A hacker would need to access each machine! LeftInTX Sunday #105

Harris performed about 3 points worse in NM than Biden did. tritsofme Sunday #106

Trump is a master of projection DeeDeeNY Dec 18 #22

Doesn't sound paranoid to me. yellow dahlia Dec 18 #29

Your points are all valid, yellow dahlia Dec 18 #23

Harris' internal polls never showed her ahead in battlegrounds Sympthsical Thursday #57

he also said he'd get 100 million votes this time. Callie1979 Thursday #75

You could take a poll today and due to some doc03 Dec 18 #6

That's his plan. maxsolomon Dec 18 #7

That is his buisiness plan I guess sue and doc03 Dec 18 #10

Right - he says he is ready to spend money on lawsuits. yellow dahlia Dec 18 #25

"I dont know how he could win other than just forcing them to spend millions to defend themselves." SunSeeker Dec 18 #8

I think the people and entities, who can afford it, should say: bring it on. yellow dahlia Dec 18 #27

There's this thing in statistics called "outliers" mchill Dec 18 #9

I was just saying the same thing yellow dahlia Dec 18 #28

I suppose with ridiculous lawsuits come ridiculous theories. tritsofme Dec 18 #12

I'll have a tall glass of Discovery, with Selzer and a wedge of lime BoRaGard Dec 18 #13

Her poll might be correct, but assume Johonny Dec 18 #14

Something does smell Cherokee100 Dec 18 #18

And the bomb threats at certain precincts on election day. yellow dahlia Dec 18 #30

This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Dec 18 #32

This cilla4progress Dec 18 #20

Selzer's polling was desperately and embarrassingly wrong. End of. stopdiggin Dec 18 #24

"Us" live love laugh Dec 18 #26

I could not find that Ann Selzer said that. yellow dahlia Dec 18 #34

she missed the IA result by a whopping 16 points stopdiggin Dec 18 #35

Please do not put words in my mouth, yellow dahlia Dec 18 #36

and yet, said poll - when all is said and done - was desperately at odds with the actual result. stopdiggin Dec 18 #39

Link to where she said that? obamanut2012 Thursday #59

No kidding - Selzer's poll may well have been the worst poll since the infamous Literary Digest poll in 1936 predicted Midwestern Democrat Friday #99

Selzer apparently HAD a very fine career, an excellent record stopdiggin Friday #101

We're never getting a hand recount, so who knows? Karasu Dec 18 #31

I believe that karin_sj Dec 18 #33

The unreported aspect is how many had uncounted provisional ballots, rejected mail-in ballots, ... Festivito Thursday #43

Good points. Define free and fair. n/t yellow dahlia Thursday #50

Compare and contrast: justice system versus Justice system. Festivito Thursday #55

I've had that thought.. dchill Thursday #45

Lol Polybius Thursday #47

That poll was an outlier as all of the other polls showed Trump winning but not by as much as he did andym Thursday #48

Can we also sue him for thinking he'll win California and New York? Norbert Thursday #54

Sure! LeftInTX Thursday #62

People here know I am not a tinfoiler, but I think her poll was dead on right obamanut2012 Thursday #58

There are more reasons to believe it was right, than not. IMHO yellow dahlia Thursday #71

I Can't Get Excited RobinA Thursday #63

"Hmmmm....." Indeed! BadGimp Thursday #64

Aren't polls just snapshots of moments in time. If you Nixie Thursday #66

Thats what i think! sunflowerseed Thursday #77

Considering Trump won Iowa by 13 points iemanja Thursday #81

What would that prove? Kaleva Friday #88

Nothing, except proving he cheated. Emile Friday #93

Or somebody screwed up in one state Kaleva Friday #95

It's not the poll that's "wrong" Patton French Friday #97

I never believed he won fairly Dem4life1234 Friday #98

I am looking at it through the same lens as you. yellow dahlia Friday #100