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stopdiggin

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10. since no one else has yet answered the question asked..

Sun Dec 15, 2024, 01:48 PM

Dec 15

George Stephanopoulos said (erroneously, and multiple times) that a jury found Trump guilty of rape. They specifically did not - passing over that charge, and rather found him guilty of sexual abuse (or battery) and defamation.

- snip - Trump filed the lawsuit in Florida federal court earlier this year, arguing that Stephanopoulos and ABC News defamed him when the anchor said 10 times during a contentious on-air interview with South Carolina GOP Rep. Nancy Mace in March that a jury found Trump had “raped” E. Jean Carroll. a jury found Trump guilty of rape.
- snip - A judge concluded in August 2023, when dismissing Trump’s countersuit against Carroll, that the claim Trump raped Carroll was “substantially true.” The judge wrote that Trump “raped” her in the broader sense of that word, as people generally understand it, though not as it is narrowly defined by New York state law.
- snip - A judge in July refused to dismiss Trump’s lawsuit against the network, writing that these definitions were different enough. He added that the case would turn on “whether it is substantially true to say a jury (or juries) found (Trump) liable for rape by a jury despite the jury’s verdict expressly finding he was not liable for rape.”

https://www.cnn.com/2024/12/14/politics/trump-abc-news-defamation-lawsuit-settle/index.html

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Can Someone Explain the ABC Settlement? [View all] erpowers Dec 15 OP

Isn't Trump a public figure? Don't they have to prove malice on the part part of ABC? Walleye Dec 15 #1

He would have had to prove "actual malice," which is rsdsharp Dec 15 #7

I'd like to know how his lawyers earned a million dollars. Mosby Dec 15 #2

Trump wanted to argue over whether he should be defined as a rapist or a sexual abuser Quiet Em Dec 15 #3

He was found guilty of the slightly lesser charge of sexual assault Polybius Dec 15 #4

When we consider the blatant lies Trump tells about people... yardwork Dec 15 #8

I hear ya Polybius Dec 15 #9

It was a civil lawsuit and he was found liable for sexual abuse surfered Dec 15 #11

The judge in the case told the media that is WAS rape spooky3 Dec 15 #12

Ben Meiselas lost his shit over it. Listen to his righteous rant about how fucked up it was. TheBlackAdder Dec 15 #5

Another Brown Nose for ABC BoRaGard Dec 15 #6

since no one else has yet answered the question asked.. stopdiggin Dec 15 #10

Judge Kaplan made it clear that Trump raped her Quiet Em Dec 15 #14

and another court said that was not a settled question stopdiggin Dec 15 #19

only because she told the jury she was unsure if it was his finger or his penis Quiet Em Dec 15 #20

by some kind of 'common law' definition. But that is NOT what the jury found. stopdiggin Dec 15 #21

It's exactly what the jury found Quiet Em Dec 15 #22

I think... Mike Nelson Dec 15 #13

Exactly - a trial would have been more burdensome for Trump HereForTheParty Dec 15 #17

i'll answer on two levels unblock Dec 15 #15

Probably trying to avoid much larger legal bills without settlement. GoCubsGo Dec 15 #16

ABC wants access to the Trumpster. It's Mainstream Media! LuckyLib Dec 15 #18