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WinstonSmith4740

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38. Of course there are some wno aren't rolling over.

Wed Dec 11, 2024, 04:09 PM

Dec 11

But too many ARE rolling over for this shit. Why are ANY Dems, much less Jim Clyburn, calling for Trump to be pardoned to "clear the air"? Sorry, but I'm real tired of Dems cleaning up Rethugs crap. I tired of them constantly giving ground, constantly being the ones who have to reach across the aisle and compromise. I can't remember who he was, but a few years back some Rethug asshole in Congresss said his idea of compromise was "the Democrats doing what we tell them to", and absolutely nothing has changed.

Unfortunately, right now, we don't have enough Eric Swalwell's, AOC's, Ted Lieu's, Jasmine Crockett's, or Jamie Raskin's in the House. We don't have enough Adam Schiff's or Elizabeth Warren's in the Senate. We need more, and badly.

I'm not here to bash Democrats. I'm 76 and have been a proud Democrat since I registered to vote at 21. But I'm tired of them letting Republoicans set the agenda, and the ground rules. You know the old adage about bringing a knife to a gun fight? Dems haven't even been bringing a knife...they've been bringing a rule book. It's got to stop, because now they're dealing with people who don't believe the rules pertain to them, ever.

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All I see is appeasement and acquiescence [View all] edhopper Dec 11 OP

The Neville Chamberlains, at least. Gore1FL Dec 11 #1

Or a Wilt lame54 Dec 11 #5

As much as I liked and respected Chamberlain as a basketball player, Prof. Toru Tanaka Dec 11 #53

And BeerBarrelPolka Dec 11 #56

Or a Wilt NoRethugFriends Dec 11 #6

This message was self-deleted by its author dalton99a Dec 11 #2

That sounds like edhopper Dec 11 #3

It's BeerBarrelPolka Dec 11 #7

+1. Or both dalton99a Dec 11 #11

Point!! BeerBarrelPolka Dec 11 #12

Controlled opposition? Blue Full Moon Dec 11 #23

Whatever it is BeerBarrelPolka Dec 11 #48

Combination. Dems had courage when they were in office. Sometimes. Not always. mucholderthandirt Dec 14 #81

Amazing BeerBarrelPolka Dec 14 #84

Please BeerBarrelPolka Dec 11 #4

The front line is crumbling lame54 Dec 11 #8

Then BeerBarrelPolka Dec 11 #10

Not Adam Schiff DeeDeeNY Dec 11 #50

I hope he stays strong. BeerBarrelPolka Dec 11 #60

Good to know.. TY DeeDee. I was just wondering Cha Dec 11 #74

Or demand that Biden actualy do something that is 100% within his power Bluetus Dec 11 #51

I agree BeerBarrelPolka Dec 11 #61

There is an organization, I forget the name Bluetus Dec 11 #71

Doesn't matter - Nigrum Cattus Dec 11 #57

Obeying in advance... Blue_Tires Dec 11 #77

It's absolutely demoralizing. n/t OneGrassRoot Dec 11 #9

This talk of pardoning Trump is vomit inducing. CrispyQ Dec 11 #13

If you are talking about Fetterman's call creeksneakers2 Dec 11 #73

While they're trying to come up with more effective "messaging," sop Dec 11 #14

I'm sorry to have to agree senseandsensibility Dec 11 #15

They're doing a great job giving people reasons not to vote for them aren't they? tenderfoot Dec 11 #16

As someone called Bob Dylan once said Demobrat Dec 11 #17

The United States is like a human body with no immune system Mike 03 Dec 11 #18

Because BeerBarrelPolka Dec 11 #62

of course there are Democrats "who aren't rolling over for this fascist" bigtree Dec 11 #19

This is the 2nd time I've seen a thread with a title like this one mtngirl47 Dec 11 #26

Of course there are some wno aren't rolling over. WinstonSmith4740 Dec 11 #38

No one is "attacking the party" Cirsium Dec 11 #42

the op literally attacked the party as a 'Party of Chamberlains" bigtree Dec 11 #45

Elected Dems themselves have called for reaching across the aisle leftstreet Dec 11 #46

most Americans have ALWAYS polled the same bigtree Dec 11 #47

The "parties" BeerBarrelPolka Dec 11 #59

Misleading Cirsium Dec 11 #70

As I said Cirsium Dec 11 #49

Wow senseandsensibility Dec 11 #69

I would say became some people in the party deserve it. Autumn Dec 11 #67

A lot of people apparently went from Diraven Dec 11 #20

And they turned on a dime Bettie Dec 14 #82

Wait. Merrick the Meek hasn't spoken yet.... Evolve Dammit Dec 11 #21

Well I know who is going to get primaried two years from now! Crowman2009 Dec 11 #22

I was going to use it but the lyric moniss Dec 11 #41

backbone. i remember in the bush era there was a cartoon orleans Dec 11 #24

They do edhopper Dec 11 #30

It's a classic. CrispyQ Dec 11 #31

i think this was it! (there might have been another similar one but i loved this one too!) how the hell did you find it? orleans Dec 11 #78

How are they supposed to resist? WarGamer Dec 11 #25

At the least edhopper Dec 11 #34

I look back to 17-20 and think the Democrats and the media stonewalled Trump pretty effectively. WarGamer Dec 11 #36

I don't think so this time edhopper Dec 11 #63

I don't think you're wrong BeerBarrelPolka Dec 11 #66

Trump's biggest problem in his first term was the continual chaos - every single day, a new landmine was stepped on. Midwestern Democrat Dec 14 #80

You are talking about a time edhopper Dec 14 #83

There's also the condescension.... Mike 03 Dec 11 #27

Which governor are you referring to? quaint Dec 11 #52

Shapiro BeerBarrelPolka Dec 11 #64

Kinzinger and Cheney the only ones telling the Republicans to fuck off Prairie Gates Dec 11 #28

Indeed. I have made the same observation. onecaliberal Dec 11 #35

Californians Newsom and Schiff are fighting for us. quaint Dec 11 #54

Really? No one else? quaint Dec 11 #55

How is this any different than the response to the ThePartyThatListens Dec 11 #29

Good point edhopper Dec 11 #32

It's not ThePartyThatListens Dec 11 #37

Give me some links of Democrats rolling over. n/t mtngirl47 Dec 11 #33

I don't see it that way. Fiendish Thingy Dec 11 #39

It is reminiscent moniss Dec 11 #40

Same horrible feeling as when our folks moniss Dec 11 #43

Trump owns the outcome, lock stock & barrel bucolic_frolic Dec 11 #44

They are still asking for money Bettie Dec 11 #58

What proof is there of that? It's called politics. Why wouldn't you encourage your opponent to do what the betsuni Dec 11 #65

Jasmine Crockett, AOC, Hakeem Jeffries.... Dem4life1970 Dec 11 #68

Isn't that Rebl2 Dec 11 #72

Besides Fetterman, who are you referencing? whathehell Dec 11 #75

Sadly this isn't new. Gore1FL Dec 11 #76

Senators Clinton, Kerry, and Biden also voted for the Iraq invasion. nt RandiFan1290 Dec 14 #79