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Baron2024

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57. Violence And Force

Tue Dec 10, 2024, 11:34 PM

Dec 10

The Continental Army used force and violence to overthrow the tyranny of the British. The Union Army used force to defeat the Confederates. The Allies used force to defeat the Nazis. I would prefer peace but in some cases oppression is so heavy it motivates people to act out when they have no other recourse. For-Profit Health Insurance is a racket and in some cases causes injury or death in the name of profits. Health care is a right, not a commercial product. When people are deprived of their rights in a way that threatens their life and health or the life and the health of their loved ones, there may be an argument for self defense. It may be no sin to use force against tyrants that threaten our rights to health and well being and the rights of our loved ones.

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Shapiro: "Hear me on this: he is no hero." [View all] TheProle Dec 10 OP

Oh please DO scold the people who are expressing rage LearnedHand Dec 10 #1

Yeah, Maybe More Productive RobinA Dec 11 #69

The amount of violence that health-insurance policies wreak on people's bodies is immense. WhiskeyGrinder Dec 10 #2

100+ InAbLuEsTaTe Dec 10 #26

"Violence can never be used to address political differences, or to address a substantive difference" Hellbound Hellhound Dec 10 #3

Post removed Post removed Dec 10 #8

The outpouring of anger definitely had a "French Revolution" feel to it LearnedHand Dec 10 #21

Revolutions are fought by those whose bones are easily counted. BattleRow Dec 10 #40

Great post. Celerity Dec 11 #66

Just wait for the Dead Pool list on those who pull Social Security, Medicare or Medicaid. TheBlackAdder Dec 10 #4

This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Dec 10 #25

It appears our society is no longer civil MagickMuffin Dec 10 #5

Totally wrong framing delisen Dec 10 #6

what's strange about these headlines is I thought he was referring to Perry cadoman Dec 13 #105

Progress in this country? Baitball Blogger Dec 10 #7

We deny their cancer treatment and their abortion. We deny their diabetes and heart meds. onecaliberal Dec 10 #9

This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Dec 10 #27

Is this why they want to abolish Dept of Education? BattleRow Dec 10 #41

This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Dec 10 #43

This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Dec 10 #10

This is where we learn which side people are really on. nt TBF Dec 10 #11

Exactly BeerBarrelPolka Dec 10 #12

Violence cannot be used to solve political differences Trenzalore Dec 10 #13

There is a big difference between celibrating an act of violent vigilantism... nycbos Dec 10 #14

But there are people celebrating and condoning this. LeftInTX Dec 10 #38

Yes they are, or at the minimizing i JohnSJ Dec 10 #46

And Yet Baron2024 Dec 10 #15

Bullshit. You are justifying violence. JohnSJ Dec 10 #44

Violence And Force Baron2024 Dec 10 #57

There is something really twisted about your thinking. You are calling for violence period, and trying to justify it JohnSJ Dec 11 #63

It Is Fine Baron2024 Dec 11 #65

Then I guess with your warped, burn it all down logic, you had no problem with the targeting killing of Dr. Tiller. JohnSJ Dec 11 #74

Burning It Down Baron2024 Dec 11 #87

Twisted Thinking Baron2024 Dec 11 #93

Fighting The Nazis Baron2024 Dec 11 #94

I am not going to engage with you anymore on this. Have a nice day. JohnSJ Dec 11 #95

Good Luck Baron2024 Dec 11 #96

The taking of a life by a private vigilante is not justified in this case LetMyPeopleVote Dec 11 #71

I Agree Baron2024 Dec 11 #90

Shooting someone in the back is self defense? LOL beaglelover Dec 11 #82

Not in this case BeerBarrelPolka Dec 11 #83

Profiting Off Of Death Baron2024 Dec 11 #88

How is shooting a guy in the back self defense? N/T lapucelle Dec 11 #91

It Isn't Baron2024 Dec 11 #92

Thank you for confirming that cold blooded murder is not "arguably self defense." lapucelle Dec 12 #99

Mass Murder Baron2024 Dec 12 #100

Relevant Video Baron2024 Dec 12 #101

The CEO is not just "dead". He was stalked and murdered in cold blood. lapucelle Dec 12 #103

This CEO Baron2024 Dec 14 #114

IT ISN'T Skittles Dec 14 #115

Good Article Baron2024 Dec 11 #97

Another Brief Article Baron2024 Dec 11 #98

WTH? sheshe2 Dec 13 #109

Tens Of Thousands Baron2024 Dec 14 #112

Nice response... sheshe2 Dec 14 #113

Self Defense Baron2024 Dec 14 #116

He should speak to our local jihad cowboys who are arming Ford_Prefect Dec 10 #16

All this motherhood about the rule of law. Klarkashton Dec 10 #17

My guess is he has kairos12 Dec 10 #18

Ben Shapiro is Buzz cook Dec 10 #19

The story is about Gov Shapiro of Pennsylvania. TheProle Dec 10 #24

I heard Ben say the same thing Buzz cook Dec 10 #37

ROFL Prairie Gates Dec 11 #86

This message was self-deleted by its author JohnSJ Dec 10 #45

Who? jimfields33 Dec 10 #42

"That is not what we do in a civilized society." OldBaldy1701E Dec 10 #20

What an odd example you chose there AZSkiffyGeek Dec 12 #102

Political violence is nothing new. OldBaldy1701E Dec 13 #104

Weird how he didn't mention January 6 av8rdave Dec 10 #22

Why is that weird?? AkFemDem Dec 11 #77

K&R UTUSN Dec 10 #23

K&R MustLoveBeagles Dec 10 #28

For those that have seen my OP from Today angrychair Dec 10 #29

So is Shapiro for single-payer healthcare, Emile Dec 10 #30

Sounds like he's on the side of not shooting people in the street Mountainguy Dec 11 #61

Many Americans supported bank robbers during the Great Depression, Emile Dec 11 #68

Violence is ok Mountainguy Dec 11 #79

You got nothing. Emile Dec 11 #81

Dark Corner Underground?? hehehehe... WarGamer Dec 10 #31

What's the over/under on the time Garland appoints 3825-87867 Dec 10 #32

March 2025. Autumn Dec 10 #35

If you get worked up enough and long enough about a big problem Aussie105 Dec 10 #33

In a civilized society we would have National healthcare, but we don't. So... Autumn Dec 10 #34

Oh fuck it. I can see this is a BASH Gov Shapiro thread Cha Dec 10 #36

Nor do I Lulu KC Dec 10 #48

Yeah... I was thinking about that.. Gov Shapiro Cha Dec 10 #49

I'm at a loss where the Gov Shapiro bashing is Ilikepurple Dec 10 #50

If you didn't see any bashing then you did miss it. Cha Dec 10 #52

I'm quite happy to bash anyone who doesn't preface a lecture with: Aussie105 Dec 10 #53

100%. Lately bashing democrats is okay here AkFemDem Dec 11 #78

Post removed Post removed Dec 10 #39

regarding the dark corners he refers to orleans Dec 10 #47

Gov. Shapiro is correct. Nt mcar Dec 10 #51

You forgot to say the important part: Aussie105 Dec 10 #54

I stand by what I wrote mcar Dec 11 #80

He's exactly right. Patton French Dec 13 #107

Mahalo, mcar... Cha Dec 10 #55

I agree in principal but man he sure DID have it coming! flying_wahini Dec 10 #56

Richie Rich Historic NY Dec 10 #58

I'm not sanctioning murder, particularly in cold blood...but however... Xolodno Dec 10 #59

THANK YOU Skittles Dec 11 #60

"Dark corners?" Really? Give me a break. Karasu Dec 11 #62

Shapiro is right, and thiose trying to rationalize or justify the murder of a CEO are just as twisted as the MAGAs, JohnSJ Dec 11 #64

Maybe Try To Understand RobinA Dec 11 #72

It is no different than the zealots who justified the killing of Dr. Tiller. Same bullshit JohnSJ Dec 11 #73

It's cute that Shapiro thinks we still live in a "civil society" maxrandb Dec 11 #67

He does know that we did fight an entire war about this, right? Initech Dec 11 #70

Who listens to BS? ThePartyThatListens Dec 11 #75

Who reads OPs? TheProle Dec 11 #76

He's no hero and should be prosecuted fully. Elessar Zappa Dec 11 #84

Not to justify cold blooded murder, but seems to me B.See Dec 11 #85

When I saw, "Hear me", I couldn't resist Just_Vote_Dem Dec 11 #89

Here me out.... Thompson was no victim. Happy Hoosier Dec 13 #106

Well, he's right mvd Dec 13 #108

I've seen people on other sites that think he is. I guess it all depends on ones perspective. Autumn Dec 13 #110

Every authority figure: "Your feelings are NOT valid! Just do what we tell you." ZonkerHarris Dec 13 #111