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Tommy Carcetti

(43,607 posts)
9. Just pointing out...a post of mine from June 2020:
Tue Dec 10, 2024, 09:42 AM
Dec 10
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100213640143

November 3rd is Election Day. Due to lingering (or perhaps full on) coronavirus effects, many states will see massive vote-by-mail numbers.

Even before midnight on November 3rd, all exit polls and early returns are pointing towards a massive Biden landslide and clear loss for Trump. Joe Biden will take the stage and address his supporters and the nation as the presumptive President-Elect.

However, because there will be far more mail-in ballots than usual, Trump will refuse to concede that night. He will insist he will stay in until "the very last vote is counted."

That will probably take up to two weeks. During those two weeks, Trump will begin raising questions about the fairness of the vote. He'll start throwing out all sorts of baseless claims of voter fraud and conspiracy theories. The more time goes on, the more unhinged he'll become.

During this time, there will be no attempt whatsoever to facilitate any sort of transition period between the administrations, so our entire government will remain in limbo.

Finally, the vote tallies are done and they are certified and ready to be sent to the Electoral College. At this point, Trump will file a lawsuit in desperation hoping to enjoin the Electoral College from finalizing the vote.

I predict he will not have much success at all in the courts. It will rapidly move all the way up to the Supreme Court, who will refuse to entertain the case, effectively confirming the will of the people and various states in electing Biden.

Now, that is as far as I am confident in predicting. What comes after that I'm far less certain of.

Here is the "best" case scenario: Trump, feeling angry, bitter and defeated, chooses to resign sometime in December. Mike Pence is sworn in as the nation's 46th President. Trump will have demanded that he be given a Nixon-like blanket pardon, and Pence, being the spineless lapdog that he is, will oblige. Pence will, however, facilitate a half-assed, hurried transition period, and on January 20, 2021, Joe Biden is sworn in as the nation's 47th President. (The next day, Justice Ruth Bader Ginsberg will announce a very well-earned retirement.)

As for the "worst" case scenario...well, I'd rather not go there quite yet. All I say is that it would probably look a lot like Ukraine in 2014

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+1, I totally agree. Dave Bowman Dec 10 #1
I was actually pretty shocked there was mucifer Dec 10 #2
It makes for bad TV carpetbagger Dec 10 #13
Well,... those hurricaines were about to get nuked,... magicarpet Dec 10 #39
Yes The Wandering Harper Dec 10 #3
K&R 2naSalit Dec 10 #4
Unfortunately, I agree with you. My slender hope bronxiteforever Dec 10 #5
I get hoping time steps in lonely bird Dec 10 #17
Yeah, time always wins in the end. At least so far anyway. But as an almost 74 year old in excellent KPN Dec 10 #33
Well for the New Year, my wish is that you and I bronxiteforever Dec 10 #48
Good plan! Let's do it! KPN Dec 10 #58
Same dreams and I am 88. That being said, Vance scares the hell out of me. justhanginon Dec 10 #63
He should! (n/t) OldBaldy1701E Dec 10 #68
Almost 72 and worried about the exact same thing that worries you, my friend. calimary Dec 10 #60
The only thing Trump is good at ....... SupportSanity Dec 10 #62
IF there is an election in 2028 and IF Democrats manage to win in spite of all the CousinIT Dec 10 #6
Agreed...it's going to be a nightmare Prairie Gates Dec 10 #7
I read parts of a NYT article this morning on an interview with Trump voters. Lonestarblue Dec 10 #12
The fools & the cowards just project onto Trump what they desperately need to believe. They don't do reality. Attilatheblond Dec 10 #16
Agreed lonely bird Dec 10 #18
I think it's more willfull ignorance allowing anger turned to be turned inward through propaganda. "Enemy within" BS Evolve Dammit Dec 10 #49
Plenty of that too. Attilatheblond Dec 10 #52
Have these people been living under a rock for the past 8+ years? DeeDeeNY Dec 10 #29
Idiots ... nt KPN Dec 10 #35
IMO, much of the excuses are BS. They wouldn't vote for Harris if they didn't have that supposed reason DSandra Dec 11 #75
Those people are either lacking in the courage to face the realities, or too dim to take responsiblitiy to see further. Attilatheblond Dec 10 #14
Me too ... over 4 decades. Fortunately or maybe unfortunately, there are many of us KPN Dec 10 #37
In my old age, I am leaning toward 'hopeless' Attilatheblond Dec 10 #45
Count me in the group who has seen this huge partisan divide would lead us to disaster. summer_in_TX Dec 11 #73
Ah, you have far and broad sight and are correct on all your points Attilatheblond Dec 11 #76
Excellent observations. summer_in_TX Dec 11 #82
Ah, another Austin Lounge Lizards fan! Attilatheblond Dec 12 #83
Wicked funny. summer_in_TX Dec 12 #85
They came to Tucson from time to time when I lived there Attilatheblond Dec 12 #86
Found you on BlueSky Attilatheblond Dec 12 #84
Terrific! summer_in_TX Dec 14 #89
He's going to war somewhere Bobstandard Dec 10 #8
Sending Kari Lake to Mexico is a good way to start a war with that nation. Attilatheblond Dec 10 #24
Hilarious. And too true. nt Bobstandard Dec 10 #34
I studied Gallows Humor in school Attilatheblond Dec 10 #44
But was it your major?? Evolve Dammit Dec 10 #50
No, but it is a genetric trait in my family Attilatheblond Dec 10 #53
Ha! I had co-workers and friends that were gifted and talented at it. Evolve Dammit Dec 10 #57
Just pointing out...a post of mine from June 2020: Tommy Carcetti Dec 10 #9
And from October 2020 Tommy Carcetti Dec 10 #10
Yes, you absolutely nailed it, both times FakeNoose Dec 10 #27
Yikes! Prescient. In retrospect, that scenario would absolutely have been the best case minus, KPN Dec 10 #38
Lucy and the football. He is incapable of change. Evolve Dammit Dec 10 #11
This is going to get ugly, and maybe beyond anything we have seen since the 1860s. mackdaddy Dec 10 #15
It's not just Trump. It's Elon Musk energizing Trump's bad decisions. Baitball Blogger Dec 10 #19
Careful! This seems like a manifesto!! Coventina Dec 10 #20
Pollyanna was never about saying things that are not true MadameButterfly Dec 10 #21
Add another to the ones who mwmisses4289 Dec 10 #22
I've Had People Tell Me Not To Panic Deep State Witch Dec 10 #23
Did those people conveniently forget BumRushDaShow Dec 10 #32
The very rich want $ to go into the US Treasury, just not any of THIER money. That means a big national sales tax Attilatheblond Dec 10 #40
Cassandra wasn't believed. You are Maeve Dec 10 #25
All that and bird flu trying to mutate to hit humans, monkey pox, oh, and Solar Maximum Attilatheblond Dec 10 #43
Thank you, well said wendyb-NC Dec 10 #26
They won't leave power in 2029. They will have to be evicted. bucolic_frolic Dec 10 #28
Trump learns the wrong lessons bmichaelh Dec 10 #30
So we're assuming Trump learns. SupportSanity Dec 11 #79
Nailed it. nt GiqueCee Dec 10 #31
Trump is incapable of being a "good leader". YodaMom2 Dec 10 #36
Spot on summation. 3catwoman3 Dec 11 #74
Yes of course. Susan Calvin Dec 10 #41
Common sense isn't common anymore SupportSanity Dec 11 #78
I don't understand his supporters having second thoughts TexasBushwhacker Dec 10 #42
You are exactly correct. camartinwv Dec 10 #46
It's simple. What they say they'll do, they won't... malthaussen Dec 10 #47
Watch what they do, not what they say. SupportSanity Dec 11 #77
Americans live with perpetual hope Tweedy Dec 10 #51
My main recollection was the constant: 'Give Trump a chance' after 2016 peggysue2 Dec 10 #54
Egos and natural disasters may do him in SARose Dec 10 #55
Then, My Friend... DAngelo136 Dec 10 #56
I've never had any such illusions about Donnie Blue_Tires Dec 10 #59
We told them the leopards would eat their faces off. sakabatou Dec 10 #61
sucks doesn't it ? proud patriot Dec 10 #64
Yep. He wouldn't be nominating Kash Patel otherwise. This is a guy who would love nothing more than to punish those Karasu Dec 10 #65
Dementia J lies about everything, so I have no idea what he'll do Hassler Dec 10 #66
Agreed, Tommy Carcetti spanone Dec 10 #67
If we don't stop staring at the trump trainwreck, we'll never win in 2028. ancianita Dec 10 #69
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Dec 10 #70
Agree Meowmee Dec 10 #71
I agree, however... RainCaster Dec 10 #72
Yep. I remember saying that with him, every day will be worse than the last. W_HAMILTON Dec 11 #80
And I hate to say it,.our leadership seems clueless and out of touch JCMach1 Dec 11 #81
Post removed Post removed Dec 13 #87
Buh-bye. nt Tommy Carcetti Dec 13 #88
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