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usaf-vet

(7,418 posts)
2. Maybe they did NOTHING wrong! Maybe something else was at play. View videos. Scientists use math to test their results.
Sat Mar 29, 2025, 05:50 PM
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https://tinyurl.com/NTay5

https://tinyurl.com/GP-Stuff

https://tinyurl.com/SS-Gone

Stop denying what is REALLY happening. Likely since 2000, Bush V Gore.

The addition of computers to the election process has made it possible for elections to be manipulated by small numbers in unlikely places.

WE SHOULD NEVER LET ANOTHER ELECTION TAKE PLACE WITHOUT POST-ELECTION AUDITS IN EVERY STATE

GoreWon2000

(1,358 posts)
6. Thank the Rehnquist 5 for 2000
Sat Mar 29, 2025, 07:08 PM
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with their anti-democracy, unconstitutional stopping of the Florida vote count. It's also important to remember that Liz Cheney's father was up to his eyeballs aiding the Bush brothers 2000 election theft. Not a good look to have his daughter claiming to be fighting for democracy in 2024. There would be no tRump now without Bush/Florida 2000.

usaf-vet

(7,418 posts)
7. Agreed. But maybe for different reason. I have always believed they (R) need computers in elections because they
Sat Mar 29, 2025, 11:58 PM
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Could be "network" and manipulated from remote sites with out anyone knowing you were there and what you were doing.

My job for nearly 12 years was to provided computer support. The school itself was nearly a 100 mile round trip. On weekend with no one in the lock building. I could manipulate nearly every network device from my home office. That included upgrading system software including labs with 20-30 machines.

This was always known ahead of time by the building administrators. But it could have been done without anyone knowing. In fact it required one piece of hardware that was always awake to turn on and off any computers in needed access to.

Think about it. You don't need to be any where near devices more than once to make them accessable from a remote location. For good or evil.

Escurumbele

(3,754 posts)
4. No, we have an ignorant voter problem, nothing to do with Liz Cheney...there are so many reasons why, but none
Sat Mar 29, 2025, 06:24 PM
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have to do with Cheney .

Democrats are terrible about advertising their accomplishments, so lets begin with that, they are terrible at fighting the lies from republicans, they are terrible at being proactive, being forceful to make sure they can drown republican lies that always turn into memes and do play on the psyche of ignorant electorate. Why do they allow republicans to talk bad about the economy that has been saved every time from the destruction republicans always do?

How about the fact they allowed Biden to have that awful debate when he was not feeling well? They could have postponed it, but they allowed it to go on and loose against the dumbest candidate the USA has ever had, there were other dumb candidates, but I strongly believe trump is #1.

Anyway, the list is long on why Democrats lost, and I do believe there was some cheating as well. Kamala Harris was a very good candidate, granted that she had very little time to put together a hardcore campaign, but that is when all Democrats should have united to help make it happen.

Anyway, the USA is in this mess with the convicted felon and the South African fascist, now Democrats must show strength, and creativity to get them both out of office sooner than later. History has proven over and over that once dictators get the reign of a government it is very difficult to take them down, they do eventually go down but after so much damage is done, and I don't see the military doing anything at this time either.

bucolic_frolic

(49,489 posts)
5. Democrats didn't demonize Trump enough. Hourly. We knew who he was.
Sat Mar 29, 2025, 06:26 PM
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Not enough voters listened. You see, Trump shut up. Remember hours of dancing? Trump let Proj. 2025 carry the platform, and he just hung on to the flag. In essence, the evil was divided to deflect blame. Same thing now. Musk is to blame. Not Trump.

Liz Cheney was too little, too late. She needed to rant for many loud months.

We got the best focus-group managed campaign money could buy. We needed anger, not warnings. She ran a great campaign by a prosecutor. We do better with career politicians (Senators or Governors), or businessmen. VP Harris was outside that mold.

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