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Rhiannon12866

(231,450 posts)
Tue Dec 31, 2024, 12:40 AM Dec 2024

Will any Dems OBJECT to Trump under ELECTORAL COUNT ACT? - Meidas Touch



It’s time again for Michael Popok to go to the blackboard to take a hard look at new calls to use the Electoral Count Act to have 20 percent of House and Senate members lodge an objection to Trump’s Electoral College votes to have Kamala win the presidency after all.

Does the 14th Amendment allow it, and will this MAGA Supreme Court find that unless Congress acts to declare Trump an insurrectionist, all 14th Amendment attacks are useless? Michael Popok explains. - 12/30/2024.

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Will any Dems OBJECT to Trump under ELECTORAL COUNT ACT? - Meidas Touch (Original Post) Rhiannon12866 Dec 2024 OP
Have any even hinted at doing that? Silent Type Dec 2024 #1
I think... 2naSalit Dec 2024 #8
He wasn't convicted of insurrection qazplm135 Dec 2024 #2
CO courts and the Supreme Court did not over-rule Bluethroughu Dec 2024 #4
Just because a civil entity qazplm135 Dec 2024 #5
Why tintinvotes Dec 2024 #7
There's nothing in there qazplm135 Dec 2024 #9
? tintinvotes Dec 2024 #11
Good grief qazplm135 Dec 2024 #15
Inciting an insurrection makes him an insurrectionist. Bluethroughu Dec 2024 #14
Colorado tintinvotes Dec 2024 #6
And you really think qazplm135 Dec 2024 #10
Tx? tintinvotes Dec 2024 #12
Actually tintinvotes Dec 2024 #13
I hope every member in Congress rejects this Bluethroughu Dec 2024 #3

Bluethroughu

(7,093 posts)
4. CO courts and the Supreme Court did not over-rule
Tue Dec 31, 2024, 12:51 AM
Dec 2024

He was an insurrectionist, they just allowed him to be on the ballot, because 1 state, SCOTUS said, could not interfere with who was on the ballot of a federal election...

Constitution does not even say that, but that is what they ruled on.

qazplm135

(7,641 posts)
5. Just because a civil entity
Tue Dec 31, 2024, 12:55 AM
Dec 2024

In one state made a ruling that doesn't make him a convicted insurrectionist. It doesn't make him an impeached insurrectionist. He won, move on and win the next election.

tintinvotes

(74 posts)
7. Why
Tue Dec 31, 2024, 01:13 AM
Dec 2024

There's nothing in the 14th amendment that says he has to be convicted of insurrection. It does say that in order for tRump to overcome this disability 2/3 of Congress can vote to remove the disability. Just call for a vote to remove his disability when Congress reconvenes. We watched him commit insurrection. At this point I think most people in this country would be relieved if wasn't able to remove his disability.

qazplm135

(7,641 posts)
9. There's nothing in there
Tue Dec 31, 2024, 04:02 AM
Dec 2024

That says a civil determination in one state satisfies the disqualification requirement either.

Basic common sense is you need more, or you'd have red states doing it and then saying a future Dem President elect was disqualified.
We screwed up by not immediately charging him with insurrection incitement and convicting him, or by not impeaching him successfully (we being collectively as a nation not just Dems in the second half).

Grasping at this stuff serves no cause

tintinvotes

(74 posts)
11. ?
Tue Dec 31, 2024, 04:50 AM
Dec 2024

It says clear as day an insurrectionist is disqualified. He's an insurrectionist. Democrats aren't doing their job if they seat him. Follow the Constitution or tRump will tear it up. If he takes office more than likely there won't be anymore free and fair election.

Bluethroughu

(7,093 posts)
14. Inciting an insurrection makes him an insurrectionist.
Tue Dec 31, 2024, 10:53 AM
Dec 2024

The Constitution clearly states NO person who has engaged in insurrection can hold any office.

tintinvotes

(74 posts)
6. Colorado
Tue Dec 31, 2024, 01:04 AM
Dec 2024

From what I remember Colorado the state that brought the 14th amendment case to the Supremes held a hearing and determined that he had committed insurrection. The Supreme Court determined that he's not allowed to be President, but states can't stop him from running. I think they should object, we all watched him commit insurrection and give aid and comfort to our enemies.

qazplm135

(7,641 posts)
10. And you really think
Tue Dec 31, 2024, 04:04 AM
Dec 2024

That's all that's required.
Any random state can just decide someone is an insurrectionist, no trial, just declare it and boom done?

It's a complete waste of time and energy

tintinvotes

(74 posts)
12. Tx?
Tue Dec 31, 2024, 04:52 AM
Dec 2024

That's exactly what they did to a politician in TX I believe Coe something or other, and the Supreme Court upheld it.

Bluethroughu

(7,093 posts)
3. I hope every member in Congress rejects this
Tue Dec 31, 2024, 12:47 AM
Dec 2024

Malignant narcissistic insurectionist, he is threatening to trash our economy, attack our allies, Conquer sovereign allies, break our Constitution and the citizens, align himself with Nazis and the axis of evil.

He is an adjudicated insurrectionist, he can not hold any office in the U.S. call or email All YOUR REPRESENTATIVES IN Congress and tell them to vote NO CERTIFICATION OF INSURRECTIONISTS..

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