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Sen. Kelly on Trump's pressure tactics: They'll never shut me up - Rachel Maddow - MS NOW
Pete Hegseth, former cable news weekend host and Donald Trump's Secretary of Defense, is moving to demote Senator Mark Kelly and also cut his military retirement pay because Kelly reminded members of the military of their duty to refuse to obey unlawful orders.
Senator Kelly talked with Rachel Maddow about why that particular message bothered Donald Trump so much that he's still trying to punch Kelly for saying it out loud in public. - Aired on 01/05/2026.