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Uncle Joe

(60,265 posts)
Tue Dec 17, 2024, 01:47 PM Dec 17

"It Broke Him": Mother Who Lost Son in "Kids for Cash" Slams Biden's Clemency for Corrupt Judge



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"It Broke Him": Mother Who Lost Son in "Kids for Cash" Slams Biden's Clemency for Corrupt Judge (Original Post) Uncle Joe Dec 17 OP
More Biden-bashing from Democracy Not? Ocelot II Dec 17 #1
If you don't agree with clemency for the judge in the destructive "cash for kids" scandal Uncle Joe Dec 17 #2
If the judge had been considered as an individual I wouldn't have agreed with granting him clemency. Ocelot II Dec 17 #4
i'm not crazy for a few of the pardons rampartd Dec 17 #3

Ocelot II

(121,473 posts)
1. More Biden-bashing from Democracy Not?
Tue Dec 17, 2024, 02:06 PM
Dec 17

I don't particularly agree with clemency for this judge either, but it was part of a mass commutation covering nearly 1,500 people who had been released on home confinement during the Covid pandemic, not a favor to the judge personally; in fact, none of the grantees were considered individually.

The White House did not consider any of those details when weighing the charges against Conahan or the cases of other individuals who received commutations on Thursday, said the administration official, who was granted anonymity to discuss the clemency process. Instead, the administration granted commutations en masse to all those who fit a broader set of parameters, touting the move as a record-setting act of mercy carried out just before the holidays.

Those commutations were extended to people on Covid-related home confinement after federal authorities verified that their offenses were nonviolent and not a sex offense or terrorism related, the official said. They were also all considered a low risk for recidivism, had not engaged in any violent or gang-related activity while in prison and had been on good behavior for at least a year. None of the commutations granted were individual decisions, the official added, and none who met the criteria were excluded.
https://www.politico.com/news/2024/12/13/biden-clemency-judge-michael-conahan-000890

Maybe some people, like Conahan, should have been excluded, but Democracy Not never misses a chance to crap on Biden without regard to actual facts.

Uncle Joe

(60,265 posts)
2. If you don't agree with clemency for the judge in the destructive "cash for kids" scandal
Tue Dec 17, 2024, 02:13 PM
Dec 17

then why are you criticizing the criticizing of that clemency?

"I don't particularly agree with clemency for this judge either, but it was part of a mass commutation covering nearly 1,500 people who had been released on home confinement during the Covid pandemic, not a favor to the judge personally; in fact, none of the grantees were considered individually."

Also what is your definition of actual democracy?

Ocelot II

(121,473 posts)
4. If the judge had been considered as an individual I wouldn't have agreed with granting him clemency.
Tue Dec 17, 2024, 05:24 PM
Dec 17

But he wasn't considered as an individual; he was just included in a batch of 1,500 people who met the advisory committee's criteria (they were already on home detention due to covid; crimes weren't violent or drug-related, not likely to re-offend, etc.). But the article seems to be implying that Biden knowingly granted clemency to a particular person who doesn't deserve it, much to the understandable dismay of the judge's victims - but that's not what happened at all. Arguably, blanket pardons and/or clemency aren't such a great idea because some undeserving person could benefit, but that's what this was, like it or not. Did Democracy Not expect Biden to review each of the 1,500 people on the list, or did they just go looking for another excuse to crap on another Democrat?

rampartd

(863 posts)
3. i'm not crazy for a few of the pardons
Tue Dec 17, 2024, 02:21 PM
Dec 17

but none of these guys attacked the capitol or were appointed ambassador.

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