"What America has is a Representative Democracy problem" (L Lessig)

The people are not represented anymore.

it must be time for the majority common citizens to not pay taxes. Odd that we should vote for someone who won't represent us on the more important and maybe vital issues concerning the common citizen.

landing a gyro copter on the Capitol lawn to deliver letters to a corrupt congress is a good start, but we need something bigger, more dramatic, and more rebellious.

What's the 21st century equivalent of dumping tea in Boston Harbor?

God knows signing petitions & protests aren't changing anything.

then we go home and they go back to business as usual...and the media will talk about some celeb...

It is going to take more commitment than that to change things...but who has the time when most people can't afford to miss work or they lose their home...and our liberal organizations will not get together and do anything but raise money for some TV ad...which is usually worthless.

And you see what they did to Occupy...so new approaches are needed and I wish I had one.
A general strike that a lot of people took part in and stayed until the job was done, but I don't know how to do that.

I think it's gotta be something that actually scares the 1%--like a general strike.

It would send a clear message that we're not going to play this fucking game anymore

Yesterday morning I joined a couple of friends for coffee--a retired psych prof & a woman who works on liberal causes. Practically the first thing the prof said when I joined the group was, "So when are we starting the General Strike?" There was almost a sense of elation, a freeing of the soul, in that thought. It just seems to be in the air these days.

Public discontent is sorta like natural gas--the Powers really don't notice it concentrating until it reaches explosive levels.

It would be a Peasants Strike, a Jacquerie, not just a strike of labor unions. Consumers, laborers, kids--everyone who can be spared from vital jobs in hospitals, etc. would walk out. Or at least enough of them to get some real notice.

The Democratic Establishment
is decidedly right-leaning.

Obama has said, he himself,
would be a considered a republican
20 years ago.

The New Democrats, DLC, 3rd-Way
are unquestionably pushing a
republican economic agenda.

Rahm Emanuel is being supported by
Scott Walker republicans.
"They" have taken over the party.

Until average Democrats realize and accept
this fundamental shift NOTHING will change.
Those urging vote (D) because, democrat
are blocking any substantive change .

To that end:
Meet the people where they are.
Social Media.

Inspire and inform.
Establish the narrative.

Push narrative to sympathetic media
co-opt unsympathetic media.

Seek minor acts that
establish solidarity...
(think flag pins, yellow ribbons etc)

Plan for larger action
that can be expressed
without major inconvenience
such as expense, extensive travel

Recognize participation
Urge continued work to fulfill vision.

Lather, rinse, repeat

She has made that clear. And, as much as they can without going against their party, leaders in the party have supported her.

You will see her start pulling in women from the right. She will absolutely do it. Now, if she did it with democratic values, that would be fine. But she'll do it by pandering to the right.

what you wrote here would sum it up nicely.

Democrat(R)s will never have my support. They don't help our country, just the opposite, and they definitely hurt the Democratic Party.

Widespread privatization
Globalization
Union-bashing
War mongering
Weakening environmental standards
Monopolizing industries
Corporate welfare
Lack of regulation & oversight of the financial industry

This is NOT why I call myself a democrat. We're supposed to be better than rethugs. But money has been the great equalizer.

At the absolute disregard for the economic side of the issues. That people are truly calling out liberal Democrats as racist, misogynistic, bigoted, etc because we know that the corpocracy/oligarchy that we have allowed to take over is the direct cause of the social inequities that have been taking over the country. That all the gains we made in the early part of the second half of last century are being dismantled.

Just amazed and saddened

strong middle class.

But no longer have a choice

(a) brainwashing works; and (b) ideas are hard to give up.

It is exactly that, ideas are hard to give up. And the idea of Obama and the reality were a hard lesson. But learned

that would take care of everything.

Before I married, I thought "I can't keep getting aggravated about every news report. Either I have to go into politics and do something or I have to focus on my life outside politics." And, obviously, I chose to focus on my life outside politics. But, then, there was 911 and Bush and I tuned back in big time and omigosh. The hits have kept coming ever since.

And not in a good way.

And I mean entire life. I was out campaigning for McGovern when I was 8.

But the second time bush stole the election, I backed away for about 2 years. Just felt absolutely hopeless. But I came back.

I never thought that I would feel like we are too far gone to come back after 6 years of a democratic president. Obviously, it is not all him.

Even though I really do believe there is no way out, I have to keep fighting. We all do

get discouraged. But I have been seeing encouraging signs for some time now. Either way, though, you're 100% right. We do have to keep fighting. However, any hope of winning lies in organizing and fundraising. And so, far, I am not encouraged with what I see in that direction. I think it still can happen, though we all should have woken up sooner, but will we make the sacrifices? Can we? I don't know.

BTW, I have always actively supported Democratic candidates. I had no clue about DLC/Third Way/New Democrats versus traditional Democrats. No idea that takeover (or just about) of the Party had occurred. As I said, I thought all I had to do was support the Democrats, any Democrats. And, so I did. But I did not run for office and I did not keep up with the daily yin and yang of politics as much as I do now.

And probably others, we have to start with local elections and move up. Though I know how hard it is not to look at top.

I know that SCOTUS is an important issue. But truly, we lost that a while ago. Someone on DU had a great post about that. If I can find it, I will link it. And if HC gets in, don't expect anything but another corporate stooge that is also an advocate for state rights over federal law

RW Libertarians are famous for starting with things like school board elections. On the other hand, if Ron Paul hadn't run for President a few times, would they have penetrated American consciousness enough to gather numbers?

But, I am not sure a new Party is the answer, either.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12776005#post136

Just take ours back.

Yes, I think the Libertarian would have been noticed without Paul. They were in fact

I was the first one to rec and comment on the post you linked to

gets the nomination I'm will be spending my free time with something else more beneficial like cleaning a cat box or sailing or writing catchy death metal tunes.

It's cowardly, it's contradictory and much of it is unbelievable, like the sudden change of heart about marriage equality

I know I will catch all kinds of shit for that but I believe it.

even under harper, there is a lot of good Canadian hot sauce.

This unreal, its actually taking money from schools and directly handing it those who are well-off.

Spending cuts for tax rebates.

The greater good concept needs to be re-injected into our party.

The age of greed & selfishness needs to end, soon.

That right there is her answer to everything.

That is the "Hillary Solution".

They are the only factor driving this election anymore. If any other feature of the American economy or social fabric had meaning for them it would be apparent. Look at the amount of time and money spent developing TPP in great secrecy. Look at the MIC segment of the economy. Look at the non-interference policies of the DOJ into any subject area which previous administrations of both parties considered worthy.

Our election system has been steered into a process of selection by fear. The Republicans vote against anything at all due to fearing the outcome will advance cultural enemies, based purely on the most effective propaganda machine since WWII. The Democrats are told they must vote to prevent such a disaster as the Republicans will create if they win. Which is again supported by the 2nd most effective propaganda machine. Neither party allows dissenting views from their relative lines of thought to enter the political dialogue. Those of either party who raise doubts or alternate issues are castigated from on high as disloyal to the party and hounded by the mindless minions of the national press (who don't know the meaning of a follow-up question let alone how to pronounce one).

Sisters and Brothers our future has already been bought and sold! We are being led through the motions of choice and participation to suit the grand scenario written to distract us. They require our consent so they have manipulated the terms of our granting it.

I would suggest we should maybe sharpen our pitchforks but you cannot buy them at Walmart.

Whether it's actually brought to us by (official) republicans or not.

The "BLAME" for wealth inequality
needs to be laser focused.

Republicans blame the working poor
and those on hard times, ignoring
corporate leeches, and Wall st parasites.

"Democrats" pretend they don't know
who "stacked the deck"... but they are
looking for the scoundrels!

Remember; inside every Teapublican
is a Populist waiting to be liberated!

No time to comment on each point, but real quick, just want to say it irks me that people say liberals/populists "hate the rich" or worse, we want to "topple" them. Not true. It's the corruption & coercion of our govt, the rigging of the system in their favor that is wrong.

Yes, we need a better term than the billionaire class. Because not all use their fortunes to screw the rest of us. (thank God)

So when Liz says, "the game is rigged", that's what she's addressing. Lessig's speech covers it well. I hope you watch it when you have time!

But to be perceived as angry due to mere jealousy of wealth is completely wrong & we need to counter that spin...

I realize Elizabeth made
the comment that
"the game is rigged".

Hillary "borrowed" it
for her "Getting Started" video.
Hillary said the "deck is stacked"

Hillary is just parroting
words that did well in
her focus group

The issue of wealth inequality
needs to be thoroughly fleshed
out and diagrammed so the
general public has a road map
as to where their wealth has gone.

Morning Joe

They do know how to spin, don't they?

Some days, the left bashing here is like the McCarthy hearings, difference being, even Revoltin' Joe knew that "far left" means communist.

don't give a shit about America's workers...

"In California, the cost of picking up the slack from companies such as Walmart, Burger King and Macy’s is $3.7 billion a year. In New York, the price tag is $3.3 billion. Texans are shelling out $2 billion. Couldn’t we build a few schools with that money? Repair some roads and bridges? Invest in new technology?"

(from Al Jazeera)

Why should Third Way corporatists and the GodOffalParty change the current state of inequity? Corporatists can sip wine on their yachts, while their Gulfstreams fly in politicians to kiss criminal ass. Welcome to America.

The Patriotic Populist Movement could catch on.

I advocate increasing taxes on the top 1% by 10% higher than the middle class. For their amount of money, they should pay more to society in taxes so we don't suffer from income inequality.

The wealthy end up paying a much lower RATE than most of us due to write-offs and creative accounting. And lets not forget the low rate on capital gains....

And you don't even have to be a billionaire. I have a relative who is self-employed & does accounting work for a guy who owns several restaurants. He doesn't pay a dime in income taxes. He lives in a 2.5 million house & summers in Europe with his family. It wouldn't hurt him to pay some effing taxes.

Who puts more wear and tear on infrastructure (roads, bridges, airports, ports, railroads), someone earning $25K a year waiting tables or someone with loads of money and a lot of stock in an import export business (to give just one example)? Who pollutes the air and water more? Who gets benefit after benefit from government for being a "job creator," even if the majority of the jobs created are overseas? When was the last time you got invited to a social event held by the Mayor or the Governor or the President at taxpayer expense? And so on. The airwaves are supposed to be public. How many millions have you made from them? And so one.

It's not they should pay more taxes so we can get their money. It's that their fair share should be much more than they've been paying. Probably more than they ever will pay.

Another example, a local one for me. A lovely park on the Boston waterfront was renovated. The renovation was supposed to cost one million. It ended costing several million. No big surprise there. However, the park stayed dug up a long time. No one could use it. Finally, it was finished. Yeayyy. But...it looked exactly the same from the street. So, I asked someone what they had done to the park. Answer: "They made it smaller."

Whaaaaa? All that time and tax money to make a park smaller? Why? More parking for boats. Now, why did everyone who owns a bit of a condo in Boston (or a mansion) have to chip in real estate taxes to make a public park smaller so more boats could park? There is a small hotel on the waterfront that caters to boat owners. If I had to guess why, my money is on guest parking for that hotel so the owner of that hotel can get richer. On my dime.