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Stargazer99

(3,016 posts)
Fri Dec 22, 2023, 02:53 AM Dec 2023

Who are the majority of rape victims? Our culture does not want to admit it

Fathers, sons, uncles, etc. The family that is supposed to be the best situation for a girl causes more rape than outsiders. It has been researched and found true. No wonder people like me do not like men in general. To tear apart a human soul, and that is what rape is within the family says something really ugly about our culture.

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Who are the majority of rape victims? Our culture does not want to admit it (Original Post) Stargazer99 Dec 2023 OP
This message was self-deleted by its author MutantAndProud Dec 2023 #1
Abusive or sexually abusive? Aussie105 Dec 2023 #3
Depends on how you define it MutantAndProud Dec 2023 #4
Basic instinct. Aussie105 Dec 2023 #2
I am a man and I don't like men either. Chainfire Dec 2023 #5
There are many that are unlikeable MutantAndProud Dec 2023 #6
To assume all men are to be trusted is not wise either Stargazer99 Dec 2023 #7
It's never wise to trust without it being earned MutantAndProud Dec 2023 #8
It may be sexist, but in general terms, I think that women make better humans than men. Chainfire Dec 2023 #9
Technically, but MutantAndProud Dec 2023 #10

Response to Stargazer99 (Original post)

 

MutantAndProud

(855 posts)
4. Depends on how you define it
Fri Dec 22, 2023, 04:07 AM
Dec 2023

They put me through conversion therapy to stop me from being gay and were also physically abusive. And not supportive when I was sexually abused.

Not sure it matters though as far as qualifications to discuss this.

Aussie105

(6,467 posts)
2. Basic instinct.
Fri Dec 22, 2023, 03:36 AM
Dec 2023

Females of a certain age send physical signals that the male brain interprets as fertility.
Signals the females themselves are not aware of.

In some species, that leads to intercourse and propagation of the species.

Us humans of course, are supposed to be aware of that, and above that.

Unfortunately . . .

Yes, the main male rape perpetrator is one from the family or close community.

Not defending it - just the opposite, males of all ages need to be made aware of those basic instinctive urges, and be given tools to avoid 'unfortunate' (rape) situations.

The 'Not in our family' approach doesn't wash, there needs to be open and frank discussions to explore the topic.
Fathers, mothers - talk to your sons. And your daughters, so they are aware of the danger signs.

 

MutantAndProud

(855 posts)
6. There are many that are unlikeable
Fri Dec 22, 2023, 01:05 PM
Dec 2023

Whether or not there is an imbalance or natural predisposition to be more accepting of people who are not men, it’s simply not healthy to hate an entire gender. I see a lot of these discussions pop up here on DU. I’m all for airing frustrations as a victim, I certainly have, but promoting dislike or hate of a gender (misogyny or misandry) just isn’t beneficial to anyone.

Stargazer99

(3,016 posts)
7. To assume all men are to be trusted is not wise either
Fri Dec 22, 2023, 01:50 PM
Dec 2023

and when you have been in a situation where males are predominantly the aggressor there is no signal to pick up that says something is wrong here to protect the self as in a healthy relationship with family males. To be sexualized in a family does not help one recognize the problem male and avoid them. And in a family situation as a child that betrayal makes one not accept males as good in general.
I've known wonderful males that would not take advantage of a child but the reality there are plenty that would.

 

MutantAndProud

(855 posts)
8. It's never wise to trust without it being earned
Fri Dec 22, 2023, 02:57 PM
Dec 2023

I certainly learned that the hard way. From both genders.

It still isn’t normal or healthy to have an exaggerated response to either gender, but it is not *unexpected* that that happens to a victim. And, being a victim, particularly when being victimized by family who are ideally trustworthy protective caregivers, can raise the likelihood of being taken advantage of in the future and having a harder time distinguishing safe people with normal emotional spreads from people who are pathological.

On the quantity side, ‘many’ may offend just isn’t as easily quantified with a population this large. The majority won’t, but with more people comes a proportionally higher number of offenders, and our country never even passed common sense reforms when they had the chance decades ago… so it had a cascading effect.

 

Chainfire

(17,757 posts)
9. It may be sexist, but in general terms, I think that women make better humans than men.
Fri Dec 22, 2023, 03:30 PM
Dec 2023
 

MutantAndProud

(855 posts)
10. Technically, but
Fri Dec 22, 2023, 11:21 PM
Dec 2023

On average less problematic so it’s hard to argue. It’s the reason enclaves and extra protections have been attempted for all of preserved history. It would be nice to think after 10,000 or so years things would have improved but… here we are with a forced birth policy platform popular on one side of the political isle. From experience in the south in conservative circles growing up they have their own frustrations and exasperations about that even if their lexicon doesn’t express it as easily in public. That’s also why I’m a bit troll-watch-y when it comes to blanket statements on forums. Definitely not trying to be too argumentative since most people on this sub forum share your general sympathies.

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