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hrmjustin

(71,265 posts)
Tue May 6, 2014, 05:19 PM May 2014

What Gene Robinson's Divorce Teaches Us About Marriage

Rev. Susan Russell

There is always sadness in the news that a marriage has ended in divorce. Whatever the circumstances, a divorce marks the death of the dream of happily-ever-after and the end of a relationship that was entered into with hope, joy and the intention that it be until-death-do-us-part.

Ironically, news of the impending divorce of Bishop Gene Robinson and his husband Mark Andrew "went public" while my fiancé and I were shopping for rings for our June wedding. And I found myself dealing not only with my own sadness for a couple I know and love, but with reporters calling for comment. Here are some of the questions I got:

1. Does Gene and Mark's divorce "undermine the case for marriage equality?"

No. On the contrary, I think it strengthens it. I think it helps make the point those of us advocating for marriage equality for same-sex couples have been making for many years. And that is simply that our marriages are equal. They are equally blessed and equally challenging. They are equally full of joy and equally full of disappointment. We equally love and cherish each other and we equally hurt and misunderstand each other. And, when a marriage fails, we are equally sad, scared and heartbroken. Just as the values that make up a marriage transcend the gender of the couple in the marriage, so do the challenges. And because all of our marriages are

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What Gene Robinson's Divorce Teaches Us About Marriage (Original Post) hrmjustin May 2014 OP
Marriage ends in one of two ways, death or divorce. stone space May 2014 #1
Welcome to the interfaith room. hrmjustin May 2014 #2
I've been married for most of my life. stone space May 2014 #7
Message auto-removed Name removed May 2014 #3
Library girl strikes again. hrmjustin May 2014 #4
She is something. uppityperson May 2014 #5
She doesn't like me. hrmjustin May 2014 #6
This breaks my heart and his article about it is enlightening, but so very sad. cbayer May 2014 #8
I agree. hrmjustin May 2014 #9
Death threats just for being married. I can't even imagine it. cbayer May 2014 #10
yes it really depends on the people as to whether a marriage can survive because of publicity. hrmjustin May 2014 #11
 

stone space

(6,498 posts)
1. Marriage ends in one of two ways, death or divorce.
Tue May 6, 2014, 06:05 PM
May 2014

I escaped with my life once, but my current case appears terminal.


 

hrmjustin

(71,265 posts)
2. Welcome to the interfaith room.
Tue May 6, 2014, 06:07 PM
May 2014

Personal I was never married nor do I desire to be married.

When I heard of Gene's divorce I was heartbroken.

 

stone space

(6,498 posts)
7. I've been married for most of my life.
Wed May 7, 2014, 06:46 AM
May 2014


And my own personal divorce rate of 50% probably mirrors the national average fairly accurately.

I've seen people point to the divorce rate on occasion to argue that marriage an institution is failing.

But I think this is a faulty argument. I know people who have been divorced and remarried 3 or 4 times. The fact that people keep trying points to the strength of the institution, not the weakness. If marriage were failing, folks would be giving up after the first attempt.

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cbayer

(146,218 posts)
8. This breaks my heart and his article about it is enlightening, but so very sad.
Thu May 8, 2014, 02:08 PM
May 2014

But humans are humans and marriages don't always work out.

I think that many of the pressures in this marriage were due to the backlash against them, which would place them at even higher risk.

But my sadness for them has nothing to do with them being in a same sex-marriage. I simply adore Gene Robinson and feel very sad for him and his husband.

 

hrmjustin

(71,265 posts)
9. I agree.
Thu May 8, 2014, 02:10 PM
May 2014

I met both men and you could always see on both that there was a stress on them.

cbayer

(146,218 posts)
10. Death threats just for being married. I can't even imagine it.
Thu May 8, 2014, 02:14 PM
May 2014

There are some couples that are so very strong, but there is only so much a relationship can take when you are in the public sphere.

 

hrmjustin

(71,265 posts)
11. yes it really depends on the people as to whether a marriage can survive because of publicity.
Thu May 8, 2014, 02:15 PM
May 2014
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