Gun Control Reform Activism

flamin lib

(14,559 posts) Wed Mar 4, 2015, 02:57 PM Mar 2015

Lawmakers rally around expanded background checks for gun sales

Universal background checks are back!

http://thehill.com/regulation/legislation/234457-lawmakers-rally-around-gun-control-legislation

“This bill is anti-criminal, and will help keep spouses, kids and communities safe by preventing dangerous people from getting guns,” said Rep. Mike Thompson (D-Calif.), who will introduce the legislation.

But the gun safety legislation comes in stark contrast to recent Republican bills that would expand concealed carry laws across the country and allow hunters to use armor-piercing ammunition.

Gun rights groups are gearing up for a major concealed carry push.

The Constitutional Concealed Carry Reciprocity Act, introduced last month by Sen. John Cornyn (R-Texas), the second-ranking Republican in the upper chamber, would allow gun owners who have a concealed carry permit in their home state to bring their firearms to any other state with concealed-carry laws."

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The problem with Cornyn's bill is two fold. One, it would require all states to accept the least restrictive CC protocols as opposed to those passed in their own legislatures and two it injects Federal regulation on states legislatures. It's one thing to pass a uniform CC act that sets universal minimum requirements and another thing entirely to force states to comply with the lowest common denominator devised by all the other states.

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Lawmakers rally around expanded background checks for gun sales (Original Post) flamin lib Mar 2015 OP

K&R billh58 Mar 2015 #1

I completely support this and hope no "poison pills" get attached. sir pball Mar 2015 #2

obama veto might be only solution jimmy the one Mar 2015 #3

I've written Cornyn to protest the flamin lib Mar 2015 #4

Nationwide CCW, with standards, may make a good carrot to the FOID stick. sir pball Mar 2015 #5

billh58

(6,642 posts)

1. K&R

Reply to flamin lib (Original post)

Wed Mar 4, 2015, 04:39 PM

Mar 2015

Finally, a Democratic politician with the courage to stand against the NRA/ILA for common sense gun control laws, as opposed to the right-wing asswipes calling for flooding the entire country with yet more concealed guns loaded with armor piercing ammo.

sir pball

(4,946 posts)

2. I completely support this and hope no "poison pills" get attached.

Reply to flamin lib (Original post)

Wed Mar 4, 2015, 05:58 PM

Mar 2015

Either pro or con - e.g. an AWB, which, however you feel about it, is simply not politically feasible at this time, or universal CC which is equally unlikely.

That said I actually don't think it goes far enough; I'd like to see all transfers done via FFL but that's about as likely as anything else I've mentioned so far.

jimmy the one

(2,718 posts)

3. obama veto might be only solution

Reply to flamin lib (Original post)

Thu Mar 12, 2015, 10:58 AM

Mar 2015

Gun rights groups are gearing up for a major concealed carry push.
The Constitutional Concealed Carry Reciprocity Act, introduced last month by Sen. John Cornyn (R-Texas), the second-ranking Republican in the upper chamber, would allow gun owners who have a concealed carry permit in their home state to bring their firearms to any other state with concealed-carry laws."

This could be blocked by either of the two ways available, either with a filibuster threat, or the veto. It's possible dems could not get the 41 senate votes to block it in senate, thus I think it would boil down to a veto by Obama.
I think it likely obama would veto this, call it payback if you want for gunnutted nonsense throughout his presidency; and it's not gonna hurt dem chances in 2016, unless Hillary (or whomever) criticizes Obama for the veto.
For all the BS the gun lobby spits out that dems are trying to force our policy down gun owners throats, they have a lot of nerve to force this concealed carry reciprocity upon American states.

flamin lib

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4. I've written Cornyn to protest the

Reply to jimmy the one (Reply #3)

Thu Mar 12, 2015, 12:02 PM

Mar 2015

lowest common denominator approach where every state has to accept the weakest licensing practices of some other state. Of course he doesn't even respond to emails that don't agree with him.

sir pball

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5. Nationwide CCW, with standards, may make a good carrot to the FOID stick.

Reply to jimmy the one (Reply #3)

Thu Mar 12, 2015, 09:55 PM

Mar 2015

I'm entirely in favor of a single national-standard FOID card that gets a call-in verification for the NICS check on firearms purchases, and checked for ammo. Of course the nutters reject that out of hand, to which I always answer "well, you have a CCW...what the hell do you think that is exactly? You ain't gettin one as a second ID, that's for sure!" They pretty much all concede at that point, which led me to thinking at least the option for national CCW might actually make mandatory FOIDs a possibility.

Of course, classroom and practical training would be a must, unlike PA where I got a CCW after $25 and an NICS check, with reasonable location restrictions, but that's just details..

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