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flamin lib

(14,559 posts)
Wed Nov 5, 2014, 10:12 AM Nov 2014

Washington voters approving I-594 to expand gun background checks

http://q13fox.com/2014/11/04/washington-voters-approving-i-594-to-expand-gun-background-checks/

"With 1.2 million votes counted, I-594 was leading 60-40% and its rival measure, I-591, which would limit gun background checks, was losing 55-45%."

This is what happens when you get the NRA owned politicians of both parties out of the way. Let the people speak.
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Washington voters approving I-594 to expand gun background checks (Original Post) flamin lib Nov 2014 OP
Easily the best thing pscot Nov 2014 #1
Let's hope this sets a precedent for others to follow. Oakenshield Nov 2014 #2
not so funny jimmy the one Nov 2014 #3
Republicans didn't have the Senate in 2013, they had the House, GGJohn Nov 2014 #4
voted down is correct, by my reasoning jimmy the one Nov 2014 #5
Then next time, articulate what you meant so people won't think you got it wrong. GGJohn Nov 2014 #6
articulated ad hominems jimmy the one Nov 2014 #7
No, it wasn't. GGJohn Nov 2014 #8

jimmy the one

(2,718 posts)
3. not so funny
Sat Nov 8, 2014, 02:06 PM
Nov 2014
"With 1.2 million votes counted, I-594 was leading 60-40% and its rival measure, I-591, which would limit gun background checks, was losing 55-45%."

Funny tho, when polled specifically whether they support bg checks, 80 - 90% will say yes, but when comes to voting, repubs & right leaning indy's apparently will vote the republican rightwing position, tossing their convictions under the bus to nowhere.
Actually not so funny.

This is what happens when you get the NRA owned politicians of both parties out of the way. Let the people speak.

Sick that the republican senate voted down bg checks in 2013, yet did the electorate last week care about them defying the will of the people back then? & punish republican senate hopefuls? nope, didn't faze them a bit, a good portion of the electorate is gullible & susceptible to rightwing cretinism & fearmongering.

GGJohn

(9,951 posts)
4. Republicans didn't have the Senate in 2013, they had the House,
Sat Nov 8, 2014, 11:30 PM
Nov 2014

but the Senate was controlled by the Dems.

jimmy the one

(2,718 posts)
5. voted down is correct, by my reasoning
Mon Nov 10, 2014, 12:06 PM
Nov 2014

ggjohn: Republicans didn't have the Senate in 2013, they had the House, but the Senate was controlled by the Dems

Telling people things they're well aware of doesn't enhance your persona here.
I think you purposely read too much into what I said; I put it well enough, that the 'republican senate', being the republicans in the senate, voted down the bg check bill. The only way I know of to vote down something (defeat) in senate, when you have a minority, is to filibuster with at least 41 senators.
Actually that works even if republicans had indeed controlled the senate with 51, then all they needed to vote it down was at least the filibuster 41, had sufficient repubs actually supported it (cough).

how I put it: Sick that the republican senate voted down bg checks in 2013...

They voted it down, by having a filibuster proof minority of at least 41 senators. There wasn't any other way to defeat bg check bill, other than to 'vote it down', as I put it.

jimmy the one

(2,718 posts)
7. articulated ad hominems
Tue Nov 11, 2014, 09:41 AM
Nov 2014

ggjohn: Then next time, articulate what you meant so people won't think you got it wrong.

My articulation was fine & even correct; next time when there are alternative interpretations don't leap to unjust conclusions based on your bias & prejudice, just to make a juvenile ad hominem.

GGJohn

(9,951 posts)
8. No, it wasn't.
Tue Nov 11, 2014, 09:52 AM
Nov 2014

The Senate was Dem controlled at the time, but you said it was a repub senate that voted down the bill, which wasn't true.
Regardless, it's not worth arguing over.

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