Gun Control Reform Activism

billh58

(6,642 posts) Tue Feb 18, 2014, 10:05 PM Feb 2014

Weekend Gun Report: Presidents Day Edition

"Evolve, an organization that hopes to reach both gun owners and non-gun owners and change the cultural norms around gun behavior―much like Mothers Against Drunk Driving changed the norms around drinking and driving―has released a cheeky new ad which imagines the Second Amendment being written to incorporate a sense of personal responsibility. The right to bear arms, they argue, does not give you the right to be careless." (Video at link)

Here is today’s report:

- Friday (40 incidents, 16 fatalities)

- Saturday (42 incidents, 20 fatalities)

- Sunday (56 incidents, 21 fatalities)

- Monday (26 incidents, 6 fatalities)

http://nocera.blogs.nytimes.com/2014/02/18/weekend-gun-report-presidents-day-edition/?_php=true&_type=blogs&_r=0#more-7927

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Weekend Gun Report: Presidents Day Edition (Original Post) billh58 Feb 2014 OP

Interesting proudretiredvet Feb 2014 #1

You've missed the point billh58 Feb 2014 #2

So now statistical truth is just NRA talking points. proudretiredvet Feb 2014 #3

Now you can go back billh58 Feb 2014 #4

proudretiredvet

(312 posts)

1. Interesting

Reply to billh58 (Original post)

Tue Feb 18, 2014, 11:47 PM

Feb 2014

How many of these incidents were cops shooting suspects?
How many of these incidents were homeowners defending themselves in their homes?
How many of these incidents were gang on gang shootings and killings?
How many of these incidents involved semiautomatic modern sporting rifles?
How many of these incidents involved fully automatic weapons that we keep hearing about?
How many of these incidents led to someone being arrested?
How many of these incidents are being investigated as possible or probable self defense shootings?

How many people were killed in bathtub accidents, auto accidents or violent non firearm hostilities on each of those days.

The truth may be hard for some to handle but sometimes we really do need a comparative perspective.

billh58

(6,642 posts)

2. You've missed the point

Reply to proudretiredvet (Reply #1)

Wed Feb 19, 2014, 12:59 PM

Feb 2014

(or not) and you are just trolling this safe haven Group. Please read the SOP for this Group and notice that the need for gun control has already been established and this Group discuses ways to implement it, while pointing out the menace that lax gun regulation is to our society.

All of the NRA "arguments" that you have listed above have been countered in this Group over time, so I won't bother attempting to educate you here, as you are obviously a Second Amendment absolutist. The incidents listed in Joe Nocera's daily Gun Report are all verifiable, and are all gun related. You, and gun fetishists like you, may rejoice at some of these "incidents" but most Americans do not.

If you want to argue the merits of guns and how beneficial they are to our society, take it to the RKBA Group.

proudretiredvet

(312 posts)

3. So now statistical truth is just NRA talking points.

Reply to billh58 (Reply #2)

Wed Feb 19, 2014, 06:06 PM

Feb 2014

I get it. If the NRA says it then it is not true. So if the NRA states something that is factually true that truth becomes a lie...

NO, you missed the point. I'm really into honesty and honor in what is posted. When you twist, alter, delete, and spin facts to fit your singular point of view then you've escaped the realm of truth and honesty.
I"m not at all interested in what you have decided but I am always interested in factual and provable truth.

billh58

(6,642 posts)

4. Now you can go back

Reply to proudretiredvet (Reply #3)

Wed Feb 19, 2014, 06:14 PM

Feb 2014

to your gunner buddies and brag about "really telling those grabbers a thing or two." Well done for an extremist gun troll.

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