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applegrove

(123,609 posts)
Wed Oct 4, 2017, 07:22 PM Oct 2017

How dangerous people get their weapons in America

PHILIP COOK, THE CONVERSATION & Salon

https://www.salon.com/2017/10/04/how-dangerous-people-get-their-weapons-in-america_partner/

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The importance of the informal (undocumented) market in supplying criminals is suggested by the results of inmate surveys and data gleaned from guns confiscated by the police. A national survey of inmates of state prisons found that just 10 percent of youthful (age 18-40) male respondents who admitted to having a gun at the time of their arrest had obtained it from a gun store. The other 90 percent obtained them through a variety of off-the-book means: for example, as gifts or sharing arrangements with fellow gang members.

Similarly, an ongoing study of how Chicago gang members get their guns has found that only a trivial percentage obtained them by direct purchase from a store. To the extent that gun dealers are implicated in supplying dangerous people, it is more so by accommodating straw purchasers and traffickers than in selling directly to customers they know to be disqualified.

The supply chain of guns to crime

While criminals typically do not buy their guns at a store, all but a tiny fraction of those in circulation in the United States are first sold at retail by a gun dealer – including the guns that eventually end up in the hands of criminals.

That first retail sale was most likely legal, in that the clerk followed federal and state requirements for documentation, a background check and record-keeping. While there are scofflaw dealers who sometimes make under-the-counter deals, that is by no means the norm.


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How dangerous people get their weapons in America (Original Post) applegrove Oct 2017 OP
Guy in Vegas was dangerous and bought his guns legal . 6 were from sporting chain Cabelas lunasun Oct 2017 #1
There is a difference between billh58 Oct 2017 #2

lunasun

(21,646 posts)
1. Guy in Vegas was dangerous and bought his guns legal . 6 were from sporting chain Cabelas
Wed Oct 4, 2017, 07:34 PM
Oct 2017

Retailers do supply guns directly to dangerous people
I believe sandy hook weapons were retail and registered , Dylan Roof shot 7 people at a church with a retail gun etc

billh58

(6,642 posts)
2. There is a difference between
Thu Oct 5, 2017, 11:24 AM
Oct 2017

"legal" and ethical. Gun laws need to be made more stringent and selective, and focus on deeper background information and reasons for purchase. Keeping guns out of the hands of social misfits should be the goal.

SCOTUS has already recognized that "infringement" and regulation is allowable, just as it is with other enumerated rights.

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