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tosh

(4,452 posts)
Fri Jun 10, 2016, 12:24 AM Jun 2016

Court: No right to carry concealed weapons in public

SAN FRANCISCO (AP) - A federal appeals court says people do not have a right to carry concealed weapons in public under the 2nd Amendment.

An 11-judge panel of the 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals issued the ruling Thursday.

The panel says law enforcement officials can require applicants for a concealed weapons permit to show they are in immediate danger or otherwise have a good reason for a permit beyond self-defense.

The decision overturned a 2014 ruling by a smaller 9th Circuit panel.

http://www.walb.com/story/32186115/court-no-right-to-carry-concealed-weapons-in-public

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Court: No right to carry concealed weapons in public (Original Post) tosh Jun 2016 OP
If appealed to the Supreme Court, this could be huge PJMcK Jun 2016 #1
Would we be left with differing laws in different areas? mahina Jun 2016 #2
gun laws change? jimmy the one Jun 2016 #5
You articulated it much better than I did PJMcK Jun 2016 #6
See??? Obama's commin' fer yer gunz!!!! ARM UP!!!! Spitfire of ATJ Jun 2016 #3
Good Heavens! A Glimmer of Sanity in the Morass of Gun-worshiping. Sinistrous Jun 2016 #4

PJMcK

(23,009 posts)
1. If appealed to the Supreme Court, this could be huge
Fri Jun 10, 2016, 12:42 AM
Jun 2016

Consider this: the case is heard by SCOTUS and they vote 4-4. The lower court ruling then stands and gun laws change. Interesting.

jimmy the one

(2,718 posts)
5. gun laws change?
Fri Jun 10, 2016, 12:17 PM
Jun 2016

PJ: Consider this: the case is heard by SCOTUS and they vote 4-4. The lower court ruling then stands and gun laws change. Interesting.

What do you mean 'gun laws change'? This 9th circuit ruling stated that concealed carry was not a constitutional right, based on heller's '2ndA not absolute'. I don't think that Concealed carry is considered a constitutional right as it is, since there were a dozen state's constitutions which banned or restricted carrying concealed weapons dating back to the early 1800's.
If appealed to the supreme court & a 4 - 4 ruling returned, this fuller 9th circuit ruling would remain, yes? hoping that is what you were saying. Since yes gun laws would change or be clarified, not by legislative action but by judicial action (a better term for it).

Actually, the 9th cc ruling might not 'remain' except on a temporary basis, as the SCOTUS could somehow revisit the case after a full scotus is back. Dunno exactly how that works.

PJMcK

(23,009 posts)
6. You articulated it much better than I did
Fri Jun 10, 2016, 01:30 PM
Jun 2016

Thanks for clarifying my late-night musings, jimmy!

Sinistrous

(4,249 posts)
4. Good Heavens! A Glimmer of Sanity in the Morass of Gun-worshiping.
Fri Jun 10, 2016, 06:00 AM
Jun 2016

I'm sure this decision will be overturned promptly.

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