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Related: About this forumMy daughter married a MRA part deux,
Well you all, (is this thing on?) its been quite the ride. My soon to be ex-SIL, the MRA having been so unprepared and inappropriate in court, had several things to do to move forward with a parenting plan. Instead, he fucked around, and despite the love of loves he professes for his daughter, has not satisfied the court. So now hes a victim, well, he always was, in his eyes, but my daughter brought my attention to this Facebook post, upon he says I know what Im going through in response to a comment saying not to believe every you hear.
This is the YouTube post
Ill save you the google search, The woman is a RW anti-feminist, anti immigration piece of shit. Proud deplorable whatevs. Shes Australian
My daughter, who really need to stay off his Facebook page is distraught because hes calling her a liar. She has PTSD, has developed anxiety and is still terrified of this guy, who kinda comes across like a slightly stupid stoner. Almost gentle. There is about him, however, a creepiness that he cant hide, so people tend to not like him or believe him. Maybe because hes now 45 and now living in his parents garage, but I digress. My daughter begs me to respond, because Im a Momma bear and she knows this. I reluctantly send this
After we witnessed you so impaired you couldnt stand, after our daughter begged us for 30 dollars for food because you spent your household money on pot? Or how I had to hear horror stories about your gaslighting, Or how she had to almost take you by the hand to get your drivers license reinstated at what, 43 years old? It To make sure you drove with insurance? After she explained your work history? Im supposed to think shes LYING?
All you need to to is step up. Face yourself and quit trying to be a victim Get a job. Get a place to live thats safe. Dont use drugs excessively. Be an adult. Thats it. Thats all. Bare minimum requirements of adulting.
We are waiting. You are a grown man. Act like one.
Which he immediately, and I mean with a quickness, deleted. I lulzd.
While the court action has stalled, and soon-to-be-ex SIL is playing MRA victim, my daughter has moved on. She reconnected with a childhood sweetheart, whom, just like a romance novel, has loved her for years. He has an education. He has an exceptional job. He is gentle with her and my granddaughter. He is moving slow, giving them time. When I see what she had waiting in the wings compared to to the Most Useless Person I have ever met, my brain scream WHY...
Who knows why we make relationship mistakes. I know the MRA pretended to be something he wasnt, and my daughter, who tends to accept people just as they present themselves, never thought he was misrepresenting himself. A rough lesson to learn. I love the openness of my daughter, I get angry when I think someone took advantage of it..
And here we are. MRAs live in a psychological anus, covered with diseased shit that cant even be used as fertilizer. The whole philosophy does nothing but cause harm. And all the petty little offshoots, Neckbeards, incels, Nice guysall names for misogyny. Thats it. It manifests in different ways, but hatred of women is what drives them
guillaumeb
(42,649 posts)My youngest daughter had a similar story.
Best of luck for your family in dealing with this and the after effects.
Guill
ismnotwasm
(42,486 posts)AJT
(5,240 posts)Tech
(1,922 posts)PoindexterOglethorpe
(26,917 posts)Even a Google of MRA doesn't show that on the first page.
I wish people wouldn't assume we all know every possible acronym.
ismnotwasm
(42,486 posts)Last edited Thu Aug 29, 2019, 06:43 PM - Edit history (1)
Basically a reactive group against feminism. They think things like rape statistics are bullshit, that women need to be classically feminine all kinds of crap.
Rational wiki has a decent page
The men's rights movement (MRM), also known as men's rights activism (MRA), masculism, or "The Men's Human Rights Movement",[2] is a fringe movement which espouses the view that social, legal, and economic discrimination against males is present in society to the extent that fighting it deserves an organized effort mirroring that of feminism, and crucially, that any and all variants of feminism do society and the individual far more harm than good.
There are two distinct age ranges for Men's Rights Activists: group one consists of adolescent boys aged 12-16, and group two is mainly inhabited by young adult males in the early 20s to late 30s range. The most prominent MRA media and literature consist of memes circulated on sites such as iFunny or 4chan, as well as YouTube channels run by fundamentalists or, unfortunately, New Atheists.
Based on their insistence that men are held back by women at least as much as women are by men (if not more so), combined with a general adherence to neo-reactionary strains of anti-progressivism within the movement, MRAs hold the entirety of modern feminism to be an inherently unequal attempt to worsen the "already equally unfair" balance of rights and responsibilities between the sexes by selfishly putting women even further ahead. The question then becomes why in the world anyone in their right mind, today living, would willingly call themselves a feminist (especially if they're male!) when the perfectly good (and clearly much more egalitarian) label of MRA is as far as society is concerned just sitting out there in the barn doing nothing?
The MRA narrative explains this obvious plot hole as the devious result of a long-standing propaganda campaign directed at the masses from various ivory towers by a chaotic-evil radical intelligentsia. To support this overtly conspiratorial view, the crankery of various fringe radical feminist cliques (such as the TERFs) are nutpicked and presented both as "what your next door feminist actually believes" and as a necessary end goal to the entire project of feminism.
The MRA membership is primarily male, though some females also identify with the movement and are sometimes known as "fMRAs" or "feMRAs". These few women are naturally held up front row center as walking proof that the MRA movement really is everything feminism claims to be.[note 1] While the MRM might bill itself as a progressive movement and a rational reaction to the excesses of third-wave feminism, its demonization of female rape and DV victims mixed with its thorough cross-pollination with reactionary movements make it nothing but a Trojan horse to roll back protections for women under the guise of fighting male oppression.
https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Men%27s_rights_movement
mercuryblues
(15,309 posts)So look at it a different way. Your daughter knows the full value of a man who is even tempered and endearing. A man who will lift her up and not tear her down.
ismnotwasm
(42,486 posts)I dont bother her much with why, though. I did show her this thread though.
brer cat
(26,605 posts)These perpetual victims are generally too self-absorbed to be in a relationship with anything other than a blow-up doll.
sammythecat
(3,578 posts)Here's hoping your daughter and this adult guy can make a good go of things and have a happy and peaceful life together.