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Related: About this forumThe Thrill of Watching Hillary Clinton Take Down Donald Trump
This election is a disaster a mess, a disgrace, a kind of shameful political theater previously unseen in modern American politics. Or rather, one of the candidates has turned this election into a disgraceful spectacle, and he seems intent on debasing the very concept of politics as public service. The other is running a smart, tight campaign, but seeing herself tarnished by the stench exuding, Pigpen-like, from her adversary. How sweet it was last night to watch Hillary Clinton again get the chance to demonstrate how much more skillful, thoughtful, and intelligent she is than her opponent. Next to Donald Trump, thats perhaps not a tough sell. But its also extra satisfying.
If and when Clinton wins the election, sections of the peanut gallery will inevitably credit Trump for her victory. The arguments are predictable: Hes an easy opponent, such an outlandish figure, how could she not beat him? Had she been running against a Mitt Romney or a John McCain or a Paul Ryan, she would have had a much tougher time. Even Clintons dominance in the debates are routinely framed as a product of Trumps incompetence rather than her own aptitude. But an opponent like Trump doesnt cheapen a Clinton win, in the debates or in the election. Anyone who thinks hes an easy adversary hasnt spent an hour and a half trying to get his or her point across while a boorish, loud, and entitled man interrupts, condescends, talks over, and eventually threatens you, all while physically menacing you in the few moments he lets you speak without interruption (and then when he talks, he lies). The debate was a microcosm of this entire election season the hyper-competent but slightly boring woman, the belligerent and combative man and watching Clinton take Trump down was a captivating preview of just how gratifying Election Day might be.
Of course the first woman running for president of the United States is running against the mother of all sexists; whats astonishing is that shes winning. It was in hindsight obvious that the Republican Partys conservative male base, realizing that Clinton was the likely Democratic nominee, would pick a notoriously misogynist dirtbag to be their partys own candidate many of these voters are men who like seeing more-accomplished women taken down a peg, and Trump gives voice to their worst impulses. So its particularly delightful to watch that kind of sexism work against him, his misogyny so crude that even members of his own party who arent exactly feminist firebrands are fleeing so they arent tainted by him. Theyre smart to do so. Trumps boasting about assaulting women (he would grab them by the pussy, he bragged to entertainment reporter Billy Bush in a 2005 conversation that was caught on tape) has even further alienated women, and many men: Nearly two-thirds of voters now say that Trump doesnt respect women, up from just over half before the release of the tape. More than half of Americans say the video made them less likely to vote for Trump. Forty percent say he should withdraw from the race.
Misogyny like that is particularly notable because Trumps opponent is female, but Trumps style of aggressive, blustering masculinity also wouldnt be such a cornerstone of his campaign if he were running against a man. Women recognize Trump in the classmate who always shouted over them, the boyfriend who bullied them, the coworker who coopted their ideas and got the credit and the guy who made crude comments about their ass as they walked away. Clintons genius is that she has finally figured out how to make gender work for her by pointing out Trumps sexism, confirming what so many American women feel instinctively.
If and when Clinton wins the election, sections of the peanut gallery will inevitably credit Trump for her victory. The arguments are predictable: Hes an easy opponent, such an outlandish figure, how could she not beat him? Had she been running against a Mitt Romney or a John McCain or a Paul Ryan, she would have had a much tougher time. Even Clintons dominance in the debates are routinely framed as a product of Trumps incompetence rather than her own aptitude. But an opponent like Trump doesnt cheapen a Clinton win, in the debates or in the election. Anyone who thinks hes an easy adversary hasnt spent an hour and a half trying to get his or her point across while a boorish, loud, and entitled man interrupts, condescends, talks over, and eventually threatens you, all while physically menacing you in the few moments he lets you speak without interruption (and then when he talks, he lies). The debate was a microcosm of this entire election season the hyper-competent but slightly boring woman, the belligerent and combative man and watching Clinton take Trump down was a captivating preview of just how gratifying Election Day might be.
Of course the first woman running for president of the United States is running against the mother of all sexists; whats astonishing is that shes winning. It was in hindsight obvious that the Republican Partys conservative male base, realizing that Clinton was the likely Democratic nominee, would pick a notoriously misogynist dirtbag to be their partys own candidate many of these voters are men who like seeing more-accomplished women taken down a peg, and Trump gives voice to their worst impulses. So its particularly delightful to watch that kind of sexism work against him, his misogyny so crude that even members of his own party who arent exactly feminist firebrands are fleeing so they arent tainted by him. Theyre smart to do so. Trumps boasting about assaulting women (he would grab them by the pussy, he bragged to entertainment reporter Billy Bush in a 2005 conversation that was caught on tape) has even further alienated women, and many men: Nearly two-thirds of voters now say that Trump doesnt respect women, up from just over half before the release of the tape. More than half of Americans say the video made them less likely to vote for Trump. Forty percent say he should withdraw from the race.
Misogyny like that is particularly notable because Trumps opponent is female, but Trumps style of aggressive, blustering masculinity also wouldnt be such a cornerstone of his campaign if he were running against a man. Women recognize Trump in the classmate who always shouted over them, the boyfriend who bullied them, the coworker who coopted their ideas and got the credit and the guy who made crude comments about their ass as they walked away. Clintons genius is that she has finally figured out how to make gender work for her by pointing out Trumps sexism, confirming what so many American women feel instinctively.
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The Thrill of Watching Hillary Clinton Take Down Donald Trump (Original Post)
ismnotwasm
Oct 2016
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brer cat
(26,605 posts)1. Good read.
The thrill of watching her take him down doesn't totally eliminate the pig shit he threw all over the campaign, but it certainly feels damned good! We can sing and laugh as we watch her dance down Pennsylvania Avenue on her way to the White House!
ismnotwasm
(42,486 posts)2. Exactly
He is completely disgusting--and she handled him almost effortlessly
Lucky Luciano
(11,520 posts)3. Almost disappointing - not even a fair fight.
Like the Minnesota Vikings taking on my HS football team.
polmaven
(9,463 posts)4. I am with you completely!
This A.H. is at the very bottom of the deplorables basket!