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Related: About this forumJennifer Lawrence writes Facebook post about her experience as a working woman in Hollywood
Specifically, about how and why she makes less than her male colleagues.
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Its hard for me to speak about my experience as a working woman because I can safely say my problems arent exactly relatable. When the Sony hack happened and I found out how much less I was being paid than the lucky people with dicks, I didnt get mad at Sony. I got mad at myself. I failed as a negotiator because I gave up early. I didnt want to keep fighting over millions of dollars that, frankly, due to two franchises, I dont need. (I told you it wasnt relatable, dont hate me).
But if Im honest with myself, I would be lying if I didnt say there was an element of wanting to be liked that influenced my decision to close the deal without a real fight. I didnt want to seem difficult or spoiled. At the time, that seemed like a fine idea, until I saw the payroll on the Internet and realized every man I was working with definitely didnt worry about being difficult or spoiled. This could be a young-person thing. It could be a personality thing. Im sure its both. But this is an element of my personality that Ive been working against for years, and based on the statistics, I dont think Im the only woman with this issue. Are we socially conditioned to behave this way? Weve only been able to vote for what, 90 years? Im seriously asking my phone is on the counter and Im on the couch, so a calculator is obviously out of the question. Could there still be a lingering habit of trying to express our opinions in a certain way that doesnt offend or scare men?
A few weeks ago at work, I spoke my mind and gave my opinion in a clear and no-bullshit way; no aggression, just blunt. The man I was working with (actually, he was working for me) said, Whoa! Were all on the same team here! As if I was yelling at him. I was so shocked because nothing that I said was personal, offensive, or, to be honest, wrong. All I hear and see all day are men speaking their opinions, and I give mine in the same exact manner, and you would have thought I had said something offensive.
Im over trying to find the adorable way to state my opinion and still be likable! Fuck that. I dont think Ive ever worked for a man in charge who spent time contemplating what angle he should use to have his voice heard. Its just heard. Jeremy Renner, Christian Bale, and Bradley Cooper all fought and succeeded in negotiating powerful deals for themselves. If anything, Im sure they were commended for being fierce and tactical, while I was busy worrying about coming across as a brat and not getting my fair share. Again, this might have NOTHING to do with my vagina, but I wasnt completely wrong when another leaked Sony email revealed a producer referring to a fellow lead actress in a negotiation as a spoiled brat. For some reason, I just cant picture someone saying that about a man.
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Jennifer Lawrence writes Facebook post about her experience as a working woman in Hollywood (Original Post)
YoungDemCA
Oct 2015
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Kalidurga
(14,177 posts)1. She is completely right...
A man would not be called a spoiled brat. He might be spoken of in less than stellar terms. The term might even be harsher, but it wouldn't be a term that infantilizes him.
niyad
(121,031 posts)2. no, he would be applauded for his "balls"
Kalidurga
(14,177 posts)3. that is usually the case
sometimes though a man will go too far and then he is vilified, but not ever ever patted on the head and called cute names like "a spoiled brat."
ismnotwasm
(42,486 posts)4. Excellent!
I'm glad the women of Hollywood are speaking out
niyad
(121,031 posts)5. as am I. you know it is bad when the eeoc is finally getting around to checking into this in
hollywood.