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Related: About this forumNice try, Maajid Nawaz, but you didn’t go to a lapdancing club because you’re a feminist
Lets play a round of the worlds worst game: Can You Be a Feminist and
? The rules, laid down by generations of opinion writers, are that you find a thing and then bloviate airily about whether that thing is compatible with being a feminist. There are some reliable old standbys to start with: CYBAF and wear high heels? (Yes.) CYBAF and a stay-at-home mum? (Yes.) This is easy. Lets do a harder one. CYBAF and a man? Well Id hope so, but if Im absolutely honest the number of men Ive met who are actually feminist is dwarfed by the number of men who call themselves feminist and then use this as cover to act like a perfect horses arse towards women. Try this: CYBAF, and a man, and go to a lapdancing club, and get handsy with the dancers? We have a winner. GAME OVER, ruptured irony gland stopped play, no one can ever play CYBAF again.
You can thank Maajid Nawaz, Liberal Democrat candidate for Hampstead and Kilburn, for the demise of the worlds worst game. Last Friday, the Mail released CCTV footage of Nawaz Muslim moderate and (yes!) self-professed feminist in a lap-dancing club, receiving a private dance. Repeatedly, and contrary to the club policy, he puts his hands on the woman dancing for him. Club manager Jay Shah told the Mail that Nawaz was asking her to touch him and he was touching her . . . In general he was quite persistent with her, asking to take her out and for her number. Lets note that Shahs concern for the women working on his premises didnt seem to extend to actually ejecting the man breaking the rules, before we move on to enjoying Feminist Maajid Nawazs public response to these revelations.
Firstly, Feminist Maajid Nawaz tweeted a picture of his wife with the caption Dont ya wish your wifey. was. hot. like. mine? . Dont ya? Dont ya? But not satisfied with this salvo of patriarchy smashing, Feminist Maajid Nawaz released a statement on Facebook explaining that his lapdance was no contradiction with his feminism it was, if anything, a perfect expression of his feminism. After all, its not as if he killed anyone: In current times, our moral uproar is best reserved for those who aspire to stone men or women to death, not those who consensually watch women, or men for that matter, dance. Ah, theres that word: consensually. Nawaz, you see, is a choice feminist. My feminism, as intended by me, extends to empowering women to make legal choices, not to judge the legal choices they make. My fight is for rights.
And if women choose to dance for men in an upholstered broom cupboard, for twenty pounds a go, by God Nawaz will fight for that right. In fact, hell even make the choice easier by supplying the twenty pounds himself! Thats how much of a feminist Feminist Maajid Nawaz is. What does the choice to work in a nightclub look like for the women who do it? Firstly, theyre usually not actually employed by the club: its standard for them to pay the club a fee, which they then need to make back before they can break even on their nights work. This incentivises women to tolerate rule-breakers as they compete with each other for business, and because the house has made its money either way, theres limited incentive for the bouncers to protect the women who work there from the grabby patrons.
You can thank Maajid Nawaz, Liberal Democrat candidate for Hampstead and Kilburn, for the demise of the worlds worst game. Last Friday, the Mail released CCTV footage of Nawaz Muslim moderate and (yes!) self-professed feminist in a lap-dancing club, receiving a private dance. Repeatedly, and contrary to the club policy, he puts his hands on the woman dancing for him. Club manager Jay Shah told the Mail that Nawaz was asking her to touch him and he was touching her . . . In general he was quite persistent with her, asking to take her out and for her number. Lets note that Shahs concern for the women working on his premises didnt seem to extend to actually ejecting the man breaking the rules, before we move on to enjoying Feminist Maajid Nawazs public response to these revelations.
Firstly, Feminist Maajid Nawaz tweeted a picture of his wife with the caption Dont ya wish your wifey. was. hot. like. mine? . Dont ya? Dont ya? But not satisfied with this salvo of patriarchy smashing, Feminist Maajid Nawaz released a statement on Facebook explaining that his lapdance was no contradiction with his feminism it was, if anything, a perfect expression of his feminism. After all, its not as if he killed anyone: In current times, our moral uproar is best reserved for those who aspire to stone men or women to death, not those who consensually watch women, or men for that matter, dance. Ah, theres that word: consensually. Nawaz, you see, is a choice feminist. My feminism, as intended by me, extends to empowering women to make legal choices, not to judge the legal choices they make. My fight is for rights.
And if women choose to dance for men in an upholstered broom cupboard, for twenty pounds a go, by God Nawaz will fight for that right. In fact, hell even make the choice easier by supplying the twenty pounds himself! Thats how much of a feminist Feminist Maajid Nawaz is. What does the choice to work in a nightclub look like for the women who do it? Firstly, theyre usually not actually employed by the club: its standard for them to pay the club a fee, which they then need to make back before they can break even on their nights work. This incentivises women to tolerate rule-breakers as they compete with each other for business, and because the house has made its money either way, theres limited incentive for the bouncers to protect the women who work there from the grabby patrons.
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Nice try, Maajid Nawaz, but you didn’t go to a lapdancing club because you’re a feminist (Original Post)
ismnotwasm
Apr 2015
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LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)1. I've noticed the first ones who trot out the 'consensual' justification
I've noticed the first ones who trot out the 'consensual' justification are often the same ones to criticize predatory lenders-- despite it's legal and consensual status.