If she were my minor daughter, I'd still ground her!
Never encourage creepy weirdos by acknowledging them.

he would be grounded from phone, internet and video games and we'd be spending the next month volunteering at the Women's Crisis Shelter.
But my boys are still young, they think girls are yucky.

for the fact of cleverness of her reply. could equally be the boy she has know all her life in the neighborhood, going to school with. doesnt necessarily have to be a "creepy" guy from the internet. i would have to see more. but, point. if creepy man on internet, though clever, it is feeding the creep.

They want to play online games and have their own YouTube channels, and I constantly have to police them, so they don't say "hey here we are, we're 7 and 10, we live in this house, come kidnap us!"
Vigilance. Vigilance. Vigilance.

but, a parent not paying attention, in my book, is not parenting.

and there are many, is the entitlement.

Girls share their clever smackdowns of these pathetic jerks and it is amusing... but in some, they reveal such sadness and disappointment. Some share that that they used to think of the guy as a friend. That they used to think he respected them as a person. And now they get desperate pleading and bargaining - or worse, orders, like in this case - and they find out they were never a friend to them at all.

The smackdowns are funny - the public outings even better (I assume you've all seen the Facebook sexual harassers who were outed to their moms - but the sadness of this situation, this is a big part of why I became a radical feminist.

face. Had this been the other way around. Well, we see that happening and the results daily.

The tables need to be turned.

That he thinks he can act this way in the first place ...says a lot ... I think.

And it's you wonderful members of HOF who have educated me on how pervasive this whole thing is & also how different things are than when I was young.

I almost hope it was some creepy guy asking instead of one of her classmates. To me the classmate indicates the level of entitlement young boys feel is much more than when I was a teen in the 70's.

One is at that age where she is invincible, and it is so much fun to watch her humor and grit and confidence. I cringe at the thought of the experiences that will inevitably dim that little blaze she has.

that supporting equal rights and freedom from harassment, among many other things, means that you are a "radical" feminist. While there are certainly radical feminists (as there are of pretty much anything), from what posts of yours I have seen I wouldn't consider you one. It's kinda sad that we label ourselves as such when our demands are so reasonable.

Now if you support chopping off all male genitalia or something like that elsewhere that I haven't seen, then I would probably agree with the "radical" label

that her ideas appear radical to some of the more conservative ... uhm ... Democrats (?) ... that post here.

Here, we get the types which aggressively catapult antifeminist propaganda, which is of course more commonly used against radical feminists.

Liberal feminists aren't threatening the more popular forms of female oppression, so they aren't targeted nearly as much.

inre:

The waves are poorly defined and all too often the less informed like to pretend that since the third wave is the latest, that anything but third wave feminism is therefore outdated, obsolete, old fashioned, etc.

Spend enough time discussing feminist issues and you'll quickly start seeing a pattern.

But the idea is very new, and there's no widespread understanding of what the term even means.

IMO such branding type terminology gets in the way more than it helps to communicate ideas anyway.

communicating ideas and, I am not really fond of the labeling either but, since it is already here and, I am late to the "game"

and, since there are some agreements on the nebulousity of all this terminology, I am claiming fourth wave to be already here.

Third wave is so 20th century.

as opposed to the ignorantly used pejorative.

Those who use it as a pejorative only demonstrate their lack of knowledge about the subject.

Radical feminism is the type of feminism that deals with the root cause of not only women's oppression, but all oppression (therefore 'radical' because the definition of 'radical' used here means to go to the root or origin).

As an example of the difference - Liberal feminists are focused mainly on addressing the causes of women's oppression that can be rectified via laws and courts. This is very important obviously, but radical feminists, although they do also support and fight for better laws, seek to address the underlying causes for these inequalities.

In addition to fighting unfair laws, we try to address reasons the laws were written in the first place. Or to go back to the example above, in addition to laws that protect women and girls from sexual harassment, we try to address the societal causes which are the reason for this sadly ubiquitous form of harassment.

That is why it is the goal of radical feminists to end the harmful structure of society - the patriarchy - which enforces a hierarchical power structure on everyone. It is our belief that true equality of all people cannot be achieved as long as this structure remains in place.

not sure that holds true any more.

I've never studied feminism academically, so there's a lot I don't know. I just work to stop the inequality I see, which, unfortunately, is a lot. It's good to learn, though, and I am always glad to hear explanations like this. I do believe I would consider myself a radical feminist then

While I completely agree we need more women helping out, I'm actually a man my fault for not making it clear, I meant "we" as in feminists in me earlier post, not "we" as in women. Sorry, it wasn't my intention to decieve.

redqueen, that it is probably best if we not get bogged down in labels and terminology.