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Related: About this forumKaren Ingala Smith: On men's violence and inequality between men and women
All men benefit from inequality between women and men. This doesnt mean that some women are not in more advantageous positions than some men. It doesnt mean all men are the same. It doesnt mean that all women are the same. It doesnt mean that sex is the only important basis for inequality. It doesnt mean that everyone wants it to be that way.
Mens violence against women is a cause and consequence of inequality between women and men. It doesnt have to be that way. If enough of us decide to do things differently we can change the world. Men dont have to be violent, towards women or other men. Men can end male violence if enough of them want to. The thing is, this wont happen if too many men and/or women refuse to see that mens violence is a problem. The changes that will reduce mens violence against women will also reduce mens violence against other men, they will probably also reduce womens violence.
I want to see an end to mens violence against women. What this means is I want to see an end to mens violence against women. It doesnt mean that I do not care about other forms of violence. It doesnt mean that I do not feel any compassion towards male victims of violence. It doesnt mean that I dont care or that I celebrate if men are killed and that is true whether theyre killed by a woman, or, as is more likely, by another man.
Source: http://kareningalasmith.com/2014/01/18/talking-about-mens-violence-i-think-ive-been-here-before/
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Karen Ingala Smith: On men's violence and inequality between men and women (Original Post)
YoungDemCA
Jan 2014
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redqueen
(115,173 posts)1. I love this:
Earlier this week I tweeted this: Anybody pushing a gender neutral approach to domestic or sexual violence is just a male violence enabler. Imagine my surprise when (mostly) men didnt seem to like it. The responses are nothing new and as yet never original, so, as a result, Ive written this to save me the bother of repeating the same thing over and over again because I am not going to stop talking about mens violence against women and I dont suppose men are going to stop finding that objectionable.
Side note: This is the woman who started the Counting Dead Women campaign which I mentioned earlier in another thread.
Squinch
(53,431 posts)2. I am becoming more and more convinced that
the next wave in equality has to come from men, and has to be about changing the messages that men give to other men.
The alpha male idea has to be scrubbed.
The idea of force as the currency of power among men has to be scrapped.
The insistence in our media and among some men that the bad behavior of men is the fault of women has to be stopped.