History of Feminism
Related: About this forumDid anyone see this?
http://www.upworthy.com/5-minutes-of-what-the-media-actually-does-to-women-8Excellent presentation.
redqueen
(115,177 posts)But how many people will minimize, minimize, minimize. Distract. Derail. Obfuscate.
Girls up to age 8 mostly are happy with themselves. Once they hit puberty that all changes. Depression, anorexia, bulimia...
It is horrifying how few seem to really care about what we put girls and women through, with this obsession with objectification.
She is right, it is a public health issue.
YoungDemCA
(5,714 posts)..but a fundamental civil rights and human rights issue.
That certain people (they know who they are) have successfully bullied, minimized, dismissed, and shamed feminists and their allies within the past few decades is absolutely appalling.
There is so much work to be done-we simply do not have time for bigots, assholes, and trolls.
Arkansas Granny
(31,904 posts)it next to impossible for them to see reality. In fact, the deception becomes their reality and it is impossible for them to attain.
treestar
(82,383 posts)As if they are not enough even with all that genetic luck/gifts.
Amazed at Cindy Crawford's remark. Good on Kate Winslet.
Arkansas Granny
(31,904 posts)to their improbable and impossible standards for beauty.
CrispyQ
(38,837 posts)Worth the 4 minutes.
sheshe2
(88,891 posts)A woman portrayed as an object, indeed!
The pictures of thinnest models are horrifying. They most certainly are a health problem for themselves and the children that wish to emulate them.
The media needs to stop screwing around with the image of a woman, it is wrong and hurtful to us all!
treestar
(82,383 posts)it is not even attractive - it looks scary on those more extreme models!
Flatulo
(5,005 posts)They look like they've been in a concentration camp. I don't know any men who prefer their women to look like this. Which begs the question - who is setting the bar so low for female appearance?
I don't have any daughters, but I do have two nieces who are, thankfully, very comfortable in their bodies. They have wonderful, warm personalities and hearty laughs and genuine smiles. And no shortage of male suitors.
KitSileya
(4,035 posts)as curves only mess with the lines of their clothes, especially now that women don't wear corsets anymore. A number of clothes designers in the 20th century were gay, and another theory is that they didn't care for curvy women and wanted them to look as much as boys as possible. Don't know how that stacks up with previous centuries' clothes designers and their sexual orientation, so I lean towards the former, myself.
redqueen
(115,177 posts)Whether or not women have "suitors" is so far from the issue.
Flatulo
(5,005 posts)but their ideal is way off the mark. What they're creating is not beautiful in any sense.
I agree with the previous poster who noted that many designers are gay and may have a different ideal of feminine beauty than straight males.
You may not like that it may be about being attractive to men, buts that's always the subtext. They're saying 'only thin women are attractive to men. If you weigh more than xxx you'll be alone.'
It's sick and perverse, but that's the message.
redqueen
(115,177 posts)I'm just going to post this link.
http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2012/04/09/why-i-prefer-small-boobs-isnt-helping/
Flatulo
(5,005 posts)In reply #4, CrispyQ says: "I can't believe how thin some of those models are."
In reply #6, Sheshe2 says: "The pictures of thinnest models are horrifying."
In reply #7, Treestar says: "I agree she it is not even attractive."
Why no scold for them? Is it OK for women to make body-judgemental comments about other women? Or do you feel the need to put every male who stumbles into this forum in their place?
redqueen
(115,177 posts)And while it is problematic, she didn't go on to say how she knows heavier women who have lots of men interested in them.
It's a matter of degrees, IOW.
Flatulo
(5,005 posts)KitSileya
(4,035 posts)It about women's mental and physical health, both of which are damaged by the media portrayal of women. Being that thin, and being encouraged/pressured to be that thin and never measuring up is damaging to women. That is the main point here, not whether men prefer women with curves or whatnot.
And we don't "put down every male that stumbles into this forum" - we just expect everyone to read the group rules and abide by them.
Goddamn, these insensitive, willfully ignorant posts are just...
Ugh.