The comments were excellent too. I like this Quiet Mike.

Some people just have zero empathy and zero insight as well as zero knowledge of the system. You can't tell them about any of it because they think they know it all.

that obviously originate with men.

Someone is raped by a man? It's a woman's fault. A culture of vilification that drives rape victims to suicide (men, women, boys AND girls)? That no excuse not to report your rape.

A man feels emasculated because the number of his unearned advantages are becoming fewer and fewer? It's the fault of women, not the fault of the men who assumed those unearned advantages belonged to them in the first place. And not the fault of the men who judge each other's worth on the basis of how much power each has over other people.

An advertising industry (dominated by men) develops a system that portrays men as inept in order to make that group of women whose only intellectual outlet is being "CEO of the house" feel that being "CEO of the house" is a worthwhile pursuit? It's the fault of the women who have nothing to do with the creation of the advertising message aimed at them.

Feminists aren't working hard enough to improve the life expectancy of men? (And don't mention the fact that there are no male-originated organizations or efforts working on this problem.) That means feminists aren't doing feminism right.

All of this points one way to me. There was a serious problem among women, in how they treated themselves and other women, that needed addressing, and women created feminism to address that problem.

Now it is clear that there is a serious problem among men, in how they treat themselves and other men, that needs addressing. When in hell are men going to begin a movement to address these problems of the awful messages men give themselves and each other?

I often see comments about how feminists aren't for equality. They usually boil down to men expecting women to find the solutions for the behavior of men who behave badly, and belittling women when that doesn't happen. It's time that a men's movement arose to take responsibility for the bad messages that men give themselves and to each other.

Mostly from other men, naturally.

It's mostly women backing me up. And both men and women laughing it off as if it was a big joke.

Because circ is damaging, so I did some reading up on it. And what do you know, feminists got why it was a bad thing and other didn't. I'd love to see men take charge of this and be the voice against circ, but I haven't seen that much of it so far.

So when it's brought up in a conversation about feminism, I start to wonder if it's a derailing tactic instead of an honest question.

Unless the derailer can point to discussions they've started in the effort to raise awareness of how harmful and unnecessary it is... well, there's your answer.

It's really frustrating how many men seem to think feminists are being mean by not taking up arms in whatever issue they've picked to care about. As if fighting gender norms is being mean to men and not caring about boys and men. Women started working on domestic violence and instead of doing the same, many men whine that women haven't done enough for male victims. What's stopping them from getting involved themselves? Makes me wonder if they weren't raised in a patriarchal household in which any time they whined, mommy came and fixed it.

Mommy isn't fixing their problem, and therefore they are enraged that mommy isn't being impartial to her boy and girl children.

Where are junior's own responsibility and voice in these matters, other than to rail at mommy?

Bob, you sound hideous. I hope your words echo into your brain for eternity.

Chauvinism is a manifestation of misogyny. She's making the mistake that many do when they only see people shouting racial epithets as racist, but want to find a kinder, gentler label for the ideas that promote racial stereotypes. It's all racism.

Overall a good piece. I hope she realizes that misogyny is far more widespread than she thinks.

You could expand on it further. An OP = would be a good subject/topic.

It seems as though her point was that the word is over used, but doesn't address clearly enough that have a systemic problem of misogyny that has nothing to do with how much you love your wife or how many women friends a male individual has.