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Related: About this forumOnline harassment--this really drives it home
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/cafe/let-s-be-real-online-harassment-isn-t-virtual-for-womenStuck at home and going swiftly down an online rabbit hole, I spent hours reading posts that extended beyond commenting on my rape-ability into users posting dozens of photos of me, commenting on my body, rating my physical attractiveness and listing my contact information. And halfway down one of those threads, I got to this:
I actually happen to have met her before. Shes extremely pretty in person.
It was an innocuous comment, even a kind one. But more followed, in other threads people who claimed to know me in real life, or said they had at least met me, or seen me, or maybe talked to an ex boyfriend of mine. They had details about what I wore to class and what I said. I felt very suddenly like there wasnt enough oxygen in the room to fill my lungs.
I actually happen to have met her before. Shes extremely pretty in person.
It was an innocuous comment, even a kind one. But more followed, in other threads people who claimed to know me in real life, or said they had at least met me, or seen me, or maybe talked to an ex boyfriend of mine. They had details about what I wore to class and what I said. I felt very suddenly like there wasnt enough oxygen in the room to fill my lungs.
More:
I know how quickly the lines between the real and the virtual can blur. Before I discovered the AutoAdmit threads, I had already been blogging about feminism for a little while, and rape and murder threats werent new. It remains standard for people to leave comments like, Here, babycakes, let me give you some roofies and fuck you up the ass, in the ear and up your nose until you weep and bleed on my site. For the first year or two they shook me up. Then I learned how to roll my eyes, copy and paste them into a dedicated folder and hit the delete key. I did what all the male bloggers told me to do: I ignored the bullies, I grew such thick skin that now I worry about my lack of a fight-or-flight fear reflex, my ability to eat whatever shit is put in front of my face, how in real-life arguments with loved ones and moments of trauma I go stone-cold and its almost like my heart shuts off. But I bucked up. I knew how to be tough on the Internet.
And then, the summer after I graduated and was studying for the bar exam, one of the AutoAdmit posters showed up at my door.
And then, the summer after I graduated and was studying for the bar exam, one of the AutoAdmit posters showed up at my door.
Conclusion:
But what about the things you cant put a price on? How many stories werent written because the women who could best tell them were too afraid? How many people like me, damaged and lashing out, paid their online cruelties forward? How many women look back at the person they were before their skin thickened, before they learned how to deal, when they were a little more sure-footed, and how many of them grieve a little bit for all the good things that got lost in the process of surviving?
What does an online landscape look like when the women most able to tolerate it are the same ones who are best capable of bucking up and shutting parts of themselves down?
What does an online landscape look like when the women most able to tolerate it are the same ones who are best capable of bucking up and shutting parts of themselves down?
This is something we men simply can't appreciate upon reading the first or 15th time. Even those of us who are sympathetic will never be able to fully understand.
Cross-posted in GD, where it will either sink or become a flamefest, though I fail to see a reason why it should do so.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024311885
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Online harassment--this really drives it home (Original Post)
geek tragedy
Jan 2014
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The comments to that article are just like ones we see on DU. I guess it's universal.
Squinch
Jan 2014
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Squinch
(53,431 posts)1. The comments to that article are just like ones we see on DU. I guess it's universal.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)2. yeah, one could really make a killing at MRA bingo in that thread.
"what about the men"
"misandrist"
"feminists are attention seekers"
"women who complain are frail"
And that was just in one post.
Exactly what I was thinking. I had my lucky Bingo gnome and ran the board!
cinnabonbon
(860 posts)8. GROAN. have mercy
how can people say those things with a straight face.
ismnotwasm
(42,486 posts)4. Sick
Far too common.
Dash87
(3,220 posts)5. I've had someone threaten to kill me before, multiple times. It's not fun, to state the obvious.
The person who threatened me was arrested, but does that really keep you safe? I don't think so. If someone really wants to kill you, unfortunately it's fairly easy. That's the scary part.
cinnabonbon
(860 posts)7. Holy shit, I'm so sorry.
That is a terrifying experience!
cinnabonbon
(860 posts)6. Kicked and recced