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Fire Walk With Me

(38,893 posts)
Mon Jul 22, 2013, 01:23 PM Jul 2013

Why you should trust the police and Ray Kelly as head of DHS. (Large update)

Last edited Mon Jul 22, 2013, 05:02 PM - Edit history (4)

Would Obama consider Ray Kelly for Homeland Security?

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/she-the-people/wp/2013/07/18/would-obama-consider-ray-kelly-for-homeland-security-amid-stop-and-frisk-controversy/

New York City Police Commissioner Ray Kelly would be “well-qualified” to run the Department of Homeland Security, Obama said in an interview with Univision’s affiliate in the New York/New Jersey area. He hasn’t actually named Kelly as his choice to replace outgoing Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano, who is leaving to head the University of California system.

Was putting such a strong endorsement out there a first step toward seeing how Kelly’s name is received, or was it a case of the president being polite when being put on the spot? Obama said the commissioner “might be very happy where he is.” If Kelly isn’t, though, Obama said he’d want to know about it. “I think Ray Kelly is one of the best there is,” Obama said.


However:

Occupy Wall Street ‏@OccupyWallStNYC

Secret police recordings: "We're going to go out there and violate some rights." Disgusting.
#StopAndFrisk
http://ow.ly/ncTK0


CIA Agent Had "No Limitations" Working With NYPD After 9/11

http://gothamist.com/2013/06/27/cia_agent_had_no_limitations_workin.php


NYC 'Stop and Frisk' Policy Ruled Unconstitutional

http://www.policymic.com/articles/22375/nyc-stop-and-frisk-policy-ruled-unconstitutional-conservatives-immediately-start-whining

Racial Profiling Muslims: NYPD is Violating Civil Liberties by Spying on Religious Groups

http://www.policymic.com/articles/24817/racial-profiling-muslims-nypd-is-violating-civil-liberties-by-spying-on-religious-groups


"Every year since 2003, blacks and Latinos have consistently accounted for around 85 percent of stop-and-frisk selectees."

http://www.slate.com/blogs/crime/2013/07/01/mayor_bloomberg_stop_and_frisk_yes_the_controversial_policy_is_really_really.html


And of course Occupiers know all about NYPD and Ray Kelly. Add that Kelly works for Bloomberg, a Wall Street billionaire, and add that to Obama and his nomination of legendary foe of worker's rights Penny Pritzker, and you've got a 1%-a-palooza. One which is blatantly racist.

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Added reading for those who cannot parse the Trend, and how Ray Kelly in DHS would be a disaster immediately stretching to all police departments who are already DHS puppets:

How LAPD are made into a tentacle of the DHS


http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022154200


Bringing the argument home about domestic spying (Look no further than the Los Angeles Police Dept.)

http://upload.democraticunderground.com/10023101984


Meet the Contractors Turning America's Police Into a Paramilitary Force

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12525281


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Why you should trust the police and Ray Kelly as head of DHS. (Large update) (Original Post) Fire Walk With Me Jul 2013 OP
When Obama learns about this, surely he'll do something. Why are his aides not telling him? AnotherMcIntosh Jul 2013 #1
I am not sure what you mean. What could he do? Give a speech? nm rhett o rick Jul 2013 #5
If he has a teleprompter AnotherMcIntosh Jul 2013 #6
There is no one who I would approve for DHS chair, Dawson Leery Jul 2013 #2
+ 10,000. n/t truedelphi Jul 2013 #3
Ditto annabanana Jul 2013 #4
Has Obama nominated him??????????? dixiegrrrrl Jul 2013 #7
The OP implies he is already head of the DHS!!!!11 tridim Jul 2013 #9
The people Obama casually discusses have a distinct tendency to later appear in said office. Fire Walk With Me Jul 2013 #10
Our president seems to embrace the conservative ideology when it comes rhett o rick Jul 2013 #8
He ceased being "my president" years ago through exactly the actions you describe. n/t Fire Walk With Me Jul 2013 #11

annabanana

(52,791 posts)
4. Ditto
Mon Jul 22, 2013, 02:03 PM
Jul 2013

and Mr B worked for Customs for decades. The formation of DHS was a hysterical, knee-jerk reaction to 9/11

tridim

(45,358 posts)
9. The OP implies he is already head of the DHS!!!!11
Mon Jul 22, 2013, 03:00 PM
Jul 2013

Neo-DU is moving forward, full blast. Facts, shmacts. Reality be damned.

 

Fire Walk With Me

(38,893 posts)
10. The people Obama casually discusses have a distinct tendency to later appear in said office.
Mon Jul 22, 2013, 03:19 PM
Jul 2013

Last edited Mon Jul 22, 2013, 04:14 PM - Edit history (2)

Including human-rights violator billionaire Penny Pritzker. Why not pay actual attention to Obama's actions as well as his words? They'll help you note the real, actual Trend indicating Ray Kelly is pre-planned. And via the links in the OP regarding his overtly racist and unConstitutional policies, an abomination whom Obama should mention only in damning terms, not as having any potential as secretary of the unConstitutional in itself DHS.

Your OPINION belongs in GD with the rest of the unquestioning sycophants who find no issue with Obama crying alligator tears for Trayvon while simultaneously mentioning Ray Kelly in terms of a Federal position.

Who exactly has their head in the sand? Have you actually read and parsed the stories in the OP? NO? I THOUGHT NOT. Why are you posting in this group, exactly?



What again is Obama doing about the horrific income inequality still functional in the US under his watch? Oh that's right; he sent militarized police to beat up and arrest the people who dared march and demand something be done. THAT'S ALL.



You know what? People who absolutely forgive Obama for everything, who refuse to accept the economic and militarization factors under which we suffer, are running people away from the democrats. Freaking congratulations.
 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
8. Our president seems to embrace the conservative ideology when it comes
Mon Jul 22, 2013, 02:28 PM
Jul 2013

to police and spy agencies.

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