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Richard D

(9,434 posts) Thu Dec 12, 2024, 12:04 PM Dec 12

Vatican nativity scene showing baby Jesus on a keffiyeh removed after backlash (Jewish Group)

This kinda falls into the category of 'keep Christmas Jewish.' For those who missed it, this was a major slur against us in that whoever made it wanted it to look like Jesus was a "Palestinian." It was Abbas who made the kefiyeh the symbol of "Palestine." The historical origin of what is today called a keffiyeh was the Sudra, a traditional scarf used by the Jewish people of Israel, mentioned in the Talmud and Torah.

A seasonal nativity scene at the Vatican has been removed after backlash over its depiction of the baby Jesus lying on a keffiyeh, the traditional scarf used by Palestinians as a national symbol, Catholic media outlets reported Wednesday.

The keffiyeh-draped cradle, which was displayed in the Paul VI Hall, was one of a series of nativity scenes collectively titled “Nativity of Bethlehem 2024,” designed by artists Johny Andonia and Faten Nastas Mitwasi, both Palestinians from Bethlehem, according to Vatican News.

At the inauguration of the scene on Saturday, Pope Francis called on believers to “remember the brothers and sisters, who, right there [in Bethlehem] and in other parts of the world, are suffering from the tragedy of war.”

According to the Crux news outlet, the Vatican did not offer a reason as to why the scene was removed and did not respond when asked whether its removal represented a political statement.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/vatican-nativity-scene-showing-baby-jesus-on-a-keffiyeh-removed-after-backlash/

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Vatican nativity scene showing baby Jesus on a keffiyeh removed after backlash (Jewish Group) (Original Post) Richard D Dec 12 OP

Palestinian Christians Buzz cook Dec 13 #1

Interesting point. . . Richard D Dec 13 #2

Surely you don't need a lesson in Christian theology. Buzz cook Dec 13 #3

That's a deep rabbit hole... Richard D Dec 13 #4

Surely you don't need to be reminded this is the JEWISH GROUP. Behind the Aegis Dec 13 #5

Buzz cook

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1. Palestinian Christians

Reply to Richard D (Original post)

Fri Dec 13, 2024, 02:21 PM

Dec 13

Might have appreciated the reminder that they exist.

Richard D

(9,434 posts)

2. Interesting point. . .

Reply to Buzz cook (Reply #1)

Fri Dec 13, 2024, 03:23 PM

Dec 13

. . . I will not agree or disagree with that. Not enough info.

But the intent and message is that Jesus was a Palestinian and not a Jew.

Buzz cook

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3. Surely you don't need a lesson in Christian theology.

Reply to Richard D (Reply #2)

Fri Dec 13, 2024, 04:05 PM

Dec 13

But Jesus came to save the whole world, Jew and gentile. He identifies with all of his creation, including Palestinians.
Central to the Christmas message is our shared humanity.
So the shawl under the baby is a statement that, these are my people to.

Richard D

(9,434 posts)

4. That's a deep rabbit hole...

Reply to Buzz cook (Reply #3)

Fri Dec 13, 2024, 04:09 PM

Dec 13

... That I won't go down. Suffice to say that the Vatican removed the kefiya.

Behind the Aegis

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5. Surely you don't need to be reminded this is the JEWISH GROUP.

Reply to Buzz cook (Reply #3)

Fri Dec 13, 2024, 04:11 PM

Dec 13

And no, the "shawl" under the baby is not to say "these are my people too" it is used, as it has been MANY times, to DENY the Jewishness of Jesus.

Again, this is the JEWISH GROUP.

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