on every news program. This is as low as you can go. Name those girls who disrespected the other team. Ensure they are known by colleges and future employers.

In fact the school, Roosevelt should have expelled them.

after the unsportsmanlike-conduct penalties were issued, then it should have been called a forfeit by Roosevelt.

And like you said, the students committing the offenses should have been penalized - I'm not sure with expulsion, but definitely suspension and academic penalties.

These kids have been recruited passively by Hamas social media for a long time in preparation for this kind of post 10/7 activity.

And, unfortunately, for every one of these incidents reported broadly, there are probably a dozen or more that don’t get reported. And for everyone that says the quiet part out loud, there are probably hundreds who say it to themselves.

To develop a program where each school’s students can participate in a program and learn from each other their differences and why it is important to be tolerant as each of us have worth. We can’t have another generation of this behavior and expect things to change

Suspending or other restrictions would not make the difference that only education can make. I hope this changes the lives of the kids and others are free to participate.

I grew up in Saudi Arabia. Beautiful landscape, horrifying humans. I was forced to watch a casual beheading at eight.

These kids hating on Israel are ultra-ignorant.

This was not a "both sides" situation.

or are you so opposed to their freedom that you agree that even uttering the idea is a "curse"

Expressing an opinion in favor of a free Palestine is not at all anti-Semitic. What's anti-Semitic is using the term "fucking Jew" to support that opinion.

I'm sure they chant that at every game against every other team.
It gives me pause when people try to turn an article about people screaming "Fucking Jew" into proof of Anti-Muslim bigotry.

That such a phrase is offensive and considered "a curse" or "anti-Semitic" to agree with me. Hell, as you demonstrated, not only will they not agree they will try consider my position offensive

Have you figured out the difference yet?

Nobody said "free Palestine" was an anti-Semitic curse, and that's not actually what was said in the first place; it was "I support Hamas" (and Hamas isn't Palestine), you fucking Jew." Is it OK and totally not anti-Semitic to call someone a "fucking Jew" as long as it's done in the context of supporting Hamas?

But I don't think it's ok when fans of my local high school throw tortillas on the field when they play a mostly-Latino team.

But sure, falsely accuse the Jews of islamophobia just because, what, it wasn’t important enough to actually determine facts?

That they believe the idea that they should be free is considered "anti-Semitic" and a curse

Got it.

I'm not even Jewish, and I've been trying to stay out of these arguments because they become so contentious, but holy crap, how can anybody not see that the statement "I support Hamas, you fucking Jew!" is over-the-top anti-Semitic? And then accuse anyone who finds that statement objectionable is accused of being bigoted against Palestinians and Arabs?

Why should this night be different from all other nights?

I don't expect to read a defense of Hamas/Gaza Political Leaders in here . . .

"Fucking Jew".
" I support Hamas "


We had an incident here last year where a football team was calling an opposing team *iggers.

*Fucking *igger*. See? Some adults here dismissed that too.

I stopped reading at “f***ing Jew”.

of an opposing sports team, it is antisemitic AF

is their life's work.

It tends to promote tribalism and hate.

faiths. That was the issue here, not the sport in play.. right?

Europe does Club sports without schools.
Also less tax $ spent on a few students and stadiums.

place.

I’ve seen fights on and off the field between schools.
PE classes are fine with me.

want to take that opportunity away from poor students who do excel at some sport?

who played Big 10 football.
I’d rather see those same less fortunate students get academic scholarships. They tend to go on to graduate at a much higher rate.

Another problem with public school athletics are those coaches, many of them bullies, intimidate students in their classes into going out for sports.
I see no reason to tie competitive sports to public schools.
No reason to not take it out of public school.
I played sports all of my high school years. Turned down scholarships and still went to college. My parents, myself and my employer paid for my education.

Interesting take.

sports in schools - which isn't the problem here- eliminate the schools that divide people up by religion, ALL faiths.

That would have been clear to persons with no bias.

Obviously this offending team needs to be dissolved as any similar acting team should.

Clear????

I'm not the one who is blaming antisemitism at a basketball game on the existence of religious schools.

eliminated'. My suggestion was that dividing people up by faiths was probably more incendiary of hostilities than having jocks running around being self-important rah-rahs..

Evidence: we don't hear much about this kind of behavior between public schools although there was a news piece last year about an all white girls' high school basketball team harassing a mostly Latino school girls' team at a game. But it's still rare.

I'm pretty sure Robert Fripp would agree with me.

And not the people hurling antisemitic insults at them. If there were no Jewish schools, antisemitism would go away I guess....

Roosevelt is public as stated in the article. But keep on blaming the religious school.

Fripp would not be happy.

How is that a parochial school’s fault?
You asserted the problem was religious schools. Only the victims were religious. Hence you are blaming the students, who happen to be Jewish, for antisemitism committed against them.
What Robert Fripp has to do with it I’m not sure - but keep up the insults!

Me and Fripp

Politics makes strange bedfellows.
Two groups who hate each other so much that they meet in common fellowship.

They support each other's goal of separation of the races.

https://rarehistoricalphotos.com/george-lincoln-rockwell-attend-nation-islam-1961/

That's antisemitism, not Pro-Palestinian. Anybody know the make-up of those kids? Probably rich white kids. They don't give 2 fucks about the Palestinians.

But, I don't see a break down on ethnicity, country of origin. Are they middle eastern? Palestinian? Probably not. Just mimicking what they've heard. Either from parents or social media. I don't believe for one second that they have the Palestinian freedom in mind when they yell these slurs.

they don't have any clue about. They get slogans from the internet and each other, if not at home, and mindlessly use them to taunt and bully others. I hope their school enlightens as well as punishes the offenders.

Minority Enrollment

90.3%

Minority Enrollment

62.2%

Hispanic

21.1%

Black

9.7%

White

4.7%

Asian

2.2%

Two or More Races

0.1%

American Indian/Alaska Native

most of the kids are children of color. The school is made up of low to middle income students.

Just mimicking others in their hatred.

I don't see anything that says those few were not of Palestinian origin.

Also, the article I quoted below lists the excellent response by both schools to the incident. It looks as if the schools are planning to use the incident to educate the kids against hate and bring the students together.

It was a terrible thing. But it seems to be being dealt with in the best way possible.

Everyone seems to be hating on everyone else. It's really sad and disheartening. I hope they bring the parents in too. This stuff starts at home a lot of the time.

Yonkers, Mt Vernon, Peekskill are notable exceptions. Lots of Hispanic/Blacks in those areas. Anecdotally, my observations are that American minorities have favored Palestinians by wide margins - perhaps in solidarity with the underdogs who they relate to. I hope my anecdotal data is wrong though.

involved - of which all sources agree were very few - are themselves of Palestinian origin and this has nothing to do with people with no connection to the conflict in the middle east "relating to underdogs."

A terrible thing happened. But there is a lot of baseless speculation in this thread that the incident was about much more widespread hate than the event actually indicates. And the responses by both schools AND the City of Yonkers have been impressive, thorough and immediate.

and can't influence. Hateful bullies.

Within minutes of the game's end, Roosevelt's athletic director apologized to Leffell.
Roosevelt's principal reached out to Leffell's head of school on Friday morning to apologize and outline disciplinary consequences and educational responses that are being developed.
Both principals also discussed the possibility of an in-person encounter, either between the schools leadership teams or among the players themselves.
In response to the incident, a Yonkers School District spokesperson says such matters are dealt with utmost seriousness and in accordance with the district's code of conduct.

If this is what is being taught in schools, or on Tic-Toc, then I'm afraid we're in for a very rough ride.

The context here is a competition that they were trying to win. You do that by dominating the opposition, in this case by getting in their heads and distracting them. Jedi mind tricks. It worked exactly as the Roosevelt team expected. Nothing more than poor sportsmanship. I am not convinced that the teams meeting will accomplish anything, Eliminating the team by removing them from upcoming games for the season is more appropriate. As that would allow the team more time to to focus on learning sportsmanship.

Enjoy your stay...

But I think that the root cause is poor sportsmanship and that anti semitism is the symptom.

By firing the team’s coach, and taking a player off the team. Speculative, but it suggests to me that this had been a strategic approach to targeting their opponents.


Yonkers Public Schools said an initial investigation was conducted involving game officials, coaches, students and school officials from The Leffell School.

“After a thorough review of videos taken at the game and interviews with those who witnessed the incident, the Yonkers Public Schools dismissed the coach and one player from the Roosevelt basketball team,” the statement said. “The investigation is ongoing. Should the District determine other students were involved in the incident, further action would be taken by the school District where appropriate.”

Officials said in the joint statement, “Along with Mayor Spano’s convening of religious, educational and civic leaders, Yonkers Public Schools also will administer further counseling and guided training sessions amongst the school community so to prevent this from happening again.”