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Behind the Aegis

(54,926 posts)
Mon Jan 17, 2022, 03:57 PM Jan 2022

(Jewish Group) Texas rabbi details standoff: Gunman 'literally thought that Jews control the world'

COLLEYVILLE, Texas — During the nearly 11 hours he was held hostage inside Congregation Beth Israel on Saturday, Rabbi Charlie Cytron-Walker focused on what he’d learned in security workshops — “Do whatever you have to do to get out,” he said — and on making sure that the gunman saw him and the three other congregants inside the synagogue as human beings.

But Cytron-Walker was able to steal brief moments for reflection, silently praying the Sh’ma and offering the Hashkiveinu: “Grant, O God, that we lie down in peace, and raise us up, our guardian, to life renewed. Spread over us the shelter of your peace.”

As the hours passed and Malik Faisal Akram, the British gunman, became increasingly agitated, Cytron-Walker saw an opportunity to escape. One hostage had been released earlier in the day, and Cytron-Walker told the two men who remained with him to run for a fire door before throwing a chair at the assailant and sprinting after them.

“It was really a matter of looking and waiting for an opportunity where all of us could go and no one would be left behind,” Cytron-Walker said in an interview with the Forward on Monday morning.

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(Jewish Group) Texas rabbi details standoff: Gunman 'literally thought that Jews control the world' (Original Post) Behind the Aegis Jan 2022 OP
Guess the FBI spokesperson JustAnotherGen Jan 2022 #1
This guy was evidently mentally incompetent Lithos Jan 2022 #2
Nah - just a rabid anti-semitic asshole JustAnotherGen Jan 2022 #3
His own words. Mosby Jan 2022 #4
He was definitely mental Lithos Jan 2022 #5

JustAnotherGen

(33,814 posts)
1. Guess the FBI spokesperson
Mon Jan 17, 2022, 04:08 PM
Jan 2022

Got it wrong - and we got it right

Akram’s first demand was to speak to Rabbi Angela Buchdahl, the leader of Central Synagogue in New York City, who he believed could free Aafia Siddiqui, a Pakistani neuroscientist imprisoned on terrorism charges at a facility near Beth Israel.

“This was somebody who literally thought that Jews control the world,” Cytron-Walker said. “He thought he could come into a synagogue, and we could get on the phone with the ‘Chief Rabbi of America’ and he would get what he needed.”


He was trying to help him. He let him in because he was trying to HELP him.

It's always a 'global jewish conspiracy' with these racist anti-semitic ass wipes.

Lithos

(26,466 posts)
2. This guy was evidently mentally incompetent
Mon Jan 17, 2022, 05:28 PM
Jan 2022

Makes me wonder if he really knew what he was doing.

Everything about this is just pathetic. The rabbi seems to be the only one making sense

JustAnotherGen

(33,814 posts)
3. Nah - just a rabid anti-semitic asshole
Mon Jan 17, 2022, 05:47 PM
Jan 2022

They generally come across as mentally incompetent to reasonable people.

Like for example - Gudrun Burwitz (Himmler's daughter). She supported Nazi's until her last breath - a true believer. Supported groups that hid nazis . . . she actually believed "that the Holocaust never happened and Jews caused their own downfall".
https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/obituaries/gudrun-burwitz-ever-loyal-daughter-of-nazi-mastermind-heinrich-himmler-dies-at-88/2018/06/30/6d57d42a-7c76-11e8-93cc-6d3beccdd7a3_story.html

Sounds just like Aafia Siddiqui - who the British traveler came here to 'free'.

It's not mental illness in my opinion - these are true believers. These folks truly hate Jewish people. Hate them.

Lithos

(26,466 posts)
5. He was definitely mental
Wed Jan 19, 2022, 11:10 PM
Jan 2022

Also, I do agree that this was a terrorist attempt and he held some major anti-semitic beliefs.

But, everything about this guy screams bi-polar to me. I can't help but think that some one or some group took advantage of this and cultivated him for this. He navigated things too easily.

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