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guillaumeb

(42,649 posts)
Fri Mar 27, 2020, 06:51 PM Mar 2020

Remember the number of laws passed over the last few years that ban the weraing of face coverings?

The lawmakers generally claimed that these laws were necessary for public safety, and were not targeting any particular religions.

Does anyone think that people wearing masks in public will be charged under these laws?

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Remember the number of laws passed over the last few years that ban the weraing of face coverings? (Original Post) guillaumeb Mar 2020 OP
In the US at least, I could see it happening in red states royable Mar 2020 #1
Mississippi just banned public gatherings. guillaumeb Mar 2020 #3
Buckle up. AtheistCrusader Mar 2020 #8
An uprising? guillaumeb Mar 2020 #10
It'll be armed assholes around churches trying to 'protect them from the big bad gubmint'. AtheistCrusader Mar 2020 #13
Standing shoulder to shoulder? guillaumeb Mar 2020 #14
Hopefully there won't be that many of them, but it only takes a few. AtheistCrusader Mar 2020 #15
Depends on the ethnicity of the mask wearer Under The Radar Mar 2020 #2
Well said. eom guillaumeb Mar 2020 #4
I don't think any of those laws required removal of face coverings for medical reasons. AtheistCrusader Mar 2020 #5
Speaking of reasons, and a valid reason for, guillaumeb Mar 2020 #6
Tend to agree, but as far as France goes, this is a pretty tame example of it. AtheistCrusader Mar 2020 #7
An excellent ending. guillaumeb Mar 2020 #9
Old habits die hard. AtheistCrusader Mar 2020 #11
What a terrible opening!! guillaumeb Mar 2020 #12
it isn't much of a choice if your community Voltaire2 Apr 2020 #16
And of those who freely choose? guillaumeb Apr 2020 #17
You don't know if they freely choose. You cannot know. trotsky Apr 2020 #18
Your "additions" to this conversation are noted, and typical. guillaumeb Apr 2020 #19
Of course you can only insult. trotsky Apr 2020 #20
a) yes b) no Voltaire2 Apr 2020 #21
Understood. guillaumeb Apr 2020 #22
You still have yet to answer this question: trotsky Apr 2020 #23

royable

(1,375 posts)
1. In the US at least, I could see it happening in red states
Fri Mar 27, 2020, 06:53 PM
Mar 2020

where the virus is still "fake news."

AtheistCrusader

(33,982 posts)
13. It'll be armed assholes around churches trying to 'protect them from the big bad gubmint'.
Mon Mar 30, 2020, 04:25 PM
Mar 2020

Like the dipshit Bundy family standoff.

Under The Radar

(3,420 posts)
2. Depends on the ethnicity of the mask wearer
Fri Mar 27, 2020, 06:54 PM
Mar 2020

News yesterday that two black men were asked to leave a Walmart due to the mask that they were wearing.

AtheistCrusader

(33,982 posts)
5. I don't think any of those laws required removal of face coverings for medical reasons.
Mon Mar 30, 2020, 12:20 PM
Mar 2020

For instance, you could wear an oxygen mask in public. Workers could wear full PPE in public for asbestos abatement, paint, paint removal, etc.

There just needs to be a valid reason for it, beyond 'my imaginary friend says so'.

guillaumeb

(42,649 posts)
6. Speaking of reasons, and a valid reason for,
Mon Mar 30, 2020, 12:49 PM
Mar 2020

there is, and was, no real reason for these various bans that just happened to target Muslim women. Other than the obvious reason of open Islamophobia, of course.

AtheistCrusader

(33,982 posts)
7. Tend to agree, but as far as France goes, this is a pretty tame example of it.
Mon Mar 30, 2020, 04:16 PM
Mar 2020

Like, this is the shit you sweep up after major civil rights issues are resolved. In fact, it's going to make the overall issue worse, because these sorts of things are radicalizing the Muslim population of France of which, fewer were practicing until provoked by this stuff.

So it's strange. It's a practice I don't respect, but it is their right, but it's also a form of oppression, for both sides, and also trying to stamp religion out is almost always violently counter-productive so yeah...

Situation as normal when you mix politics, religion, and humans.

guillaumeb

(42,649 posts)
9. An excellent ending.
Mon Mar 30, 2020, 04:20 PM
Mar 2020

I deal with a number of very progressive Muslim women in my area. About 1/2 wear the hijab. So the only thing I can conclude is that some Muslim women choose to wear the hijab.

I had 2 cousins who were in a religious order. Both covered their hair, even after that order was relaxed in the 1960s.

Voltaire2

(14,878 posts)
16. it isn't much of a choice if your community
Wed Apr 1, 2020, 05:15 AM
Apr 2020

demands compliance and your refusal to comply can have devastating consequences.

Some Muslim women have a choice, some don’t.

guillaumeb

(42,649 posts)
17. And of those who freely choose?
Wed Apr 1, 2020, 12:14 PM
Apr 2020

Are they acquiescing in their own subjugation?

Are they too unintelligent to make a choice?

trotsky

(49,533 posts)
18. You don't know if they freely choose. You cannot know.
Wed Apr 1, 2020, 12:23 PM
Apr 2020

But regardless, here we are with an epidemic killing thousands here in the US, on its way to killing hundreds of thousands, and you're trying to redirect the fear and anger at people you don't like, which is ironically exactly what you accuse them of doing.

Absolutely fucking pathetic. You should be ashamed of yourself, but you won't be.

guillaumeb

(42,649 posts)
19. Your "additions" to this conversation are noted, and typical.
Wed Apr 1, 2020, 12:30 PM
Apr 2020

But with that said, please, be safe.

guillaumeb

(42,649 posts)
22. Understood.
Wed Apr 1, 2020, 02:33 PM
Apr 2020

When I speak about faith with these Muslims, and I have had a number of such conversations, they speak of submission to the will of Allah.

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