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MineralMan

(148,008 posts)
Tue Mar 26, 2019, 09:20 AM Mar 2019

A New Hail Mary for the Rosary?

Hail Mary, full of grace.
Thanks for your womb service,
Now stay still in your place.

Hail Mary, mother of God,
Make us a nice sammich,
Now, and at the time of our lunch.

To reflect Il Papa's opinion of women?

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A New Hail Mary for the Rosary? (Original Post) MineralMan Mar 2019 OP
It would be blasphemy to claim otherwise Major Nikon Mar 2019 #1
Good old Paul, the misogynist. MineralMan Mar 2019 #2
Apparently he was the first incel. marylandblue Mar 2019 #19
LOL! MineralMan Mar 2019 #20
If this is an example of auto-didact insight, guillaumeb Mar 2019 #3
:shrug: MineralMan Mar 2019 #4
That approach, or the auto-gestion approach in general, guillaumeb Mar 2019 #5
Auto-gestion? MineralMan Mar 2019 #6
Nope. Act_of_Reparation Mar 2019 #7
I see - channeling Humpty Dumpty? MineralMan Mar 2019 #8
Well they told me in Sunday School that autodidaction marylandblue Mar 2019 #21
So wise. Best to stick with self-abuse, MineralMan Mar 2019 #22
Like MN's use of the term apologia? guillaumeb Mar 2019 #10
No, not like any of that. Act_of_Reparation Mar 2019 #11
I thought not. guillaumeb Mar 2019 #12
It certainly is. Act_of_Reparation Mar 2019 #14
Autogestion is the process of self directing. guillaumeb Mar 2019 #9
It very specifically applies to business, MineralMan Mar 2019 #13
And as I said earlier: guillaumeb Mar 2019 #15
I will not be posting a bibliography MineralMan Mar 2019 #16
And your constant admonitions to think? guillaumeb Mar 2019 #17
O wad some Pow'r the giftie gie us MineralMan Mar 2019 #18
Indeed. guillaumeb Mar 2019 #23

Major Nikon

(36,911 posts)
1. It would be blasphemy to claim otherwise
Tue Mar 26, 2019, 09:44 AM
Mar 2019
22 Wives, submit yourselves to your own husbands as you do to the Lord. 23 For the husband is the head of the wife as Christ is the head of the church, his body, of which he is the Savior. 24 Now as the church submits to Christ, so also wives should submit to their husbands in everything.
Ephesians 5:22-24

There's also several other biblical verses which command subservience of women. It just underscores the point of how bad of an idea it is to get your morals from a stone age book which you can't disagree with.

MineralMan

(148,008 posts)
2. Good old Paul, the misogynist.
Tue Mar 26, 2019, 09:52 AM
Mar 2019

Didn't much like women, Paul. Don't know why, but he didn't. And so, Paulist churches like the RCC and evangelical churches everywhere don't like women, either. Even women don't like women in some cases.

'cept Mary. They like Mary. I mean...

guillaumeb

(42,649 posts)
5. That approach, or the auto-gestion approach in general,
Tue Mar 26, 2019, 10:13 AM
Mar 2019

depends on the person knowing what to read, and how to read it.

MineralMan

(148,008 posts)
6. Auto-gestion?
Tue Mar 26, 2019, 11:14 AM
Mar 2019

Makes no sense in English or French. It's a business term, regarding business management by workers. It's not hyphenated, either. Gestion, by itself, just means management.

I think you have chosen the wrong word.

Act_of_Reparation

(9,116 posts)
7. Nope.
Tue Mar 26, 2019, 11:40 AM
Mar 2019

Words mean whatever Billy here thinks they mean at any given point in time. It's very progressive.

MineralMan

(148,008 posts)
8. I see - channeling Humpty Dumpty?
Tue Mar 26, 2019, 11:43 AM
Mar 2019

“When I use a word,” Humpty Dumpty said, in rather a scornful tone, “it means just what I choose it to mean—neither more nor less.” “The question is,” said Alice, “whether you can make words mean so many different things.” “The question is,” said Humpty Dumpty, “which is to be master—that’s all.”

I see the goal, now. Someone wants to "be master."

Well, then...

Of course, I suspect that Monsieur B's mobile device automatically corrected his typing due to not having the word "didaction" in its word list. Of course, "didaction" isn't actually a word, really, although one can find it on Google. Autodidact, however, is a word, as is didactic, the adjectival form, although the relationship is limited.



Damn AutoCorrect!

marylandblue

(12,344 posts)
21. Well they told me in Sunday School that autodidaction
Tue Mar 26, 2019, 07:02 PM
Mar 2019

will make you go blind, so I never do it.

guillaumeb

(42,649 posts)
10. Like MN's use of the term apologia?
Tue Mar 26, 2019, 01:19 PM
Mar 2019

Or his habit of referring to a link that refutes the point he is trying to make?

Understood.

guillaumeb

(42,649 posts)
9. Autogestion is the process of self directing.
Tue Mar 26, 2019, 01:18 PM
Mar 2019
https://www.linternaute.fr/dictionnaire/fr/definition/autogestion/

And the same inherent weakness applies.

The result of the self directed study is as only as good as the teacher.

MineralMan

(148,008 posts)
13. It very specifically applies to business,
Tue Mar 26, 2019, 02:00 PM
Mar 2019

not individual learning.

autogestion , nom féminin
Sens 1
Economie
Gestion d'une entreprise par les travailleurs eux-mêmes.
Traduction anglais :
self-management

The definition translates to: "Management of a company by the workers themselves." The English equivalent suggested, "self-management," is a poor translation of the French definition.

It has nothing whatever to do with being an autodidact, and it is not hyphenated in French.

If you use words based on their meaning in french, I suggest you italicize them to indicate that you are using a non-English word. I'm comfortable with French, and can look up anything I don't immediately understand.

guillaumeb

(42,649 posts)
15. And as I said earlier:
Tue Mar 26, 2019, 05:01 PM
Mar 2019
That approach, or the auto-gestion approach in general,

depends on the person knowing what to read, and how to read it.


MineralMan

(148,008 posts)
16. I will not be posting a bibliography
Tue Mar 26, 2019, 05:17 PM
Mar 2019

of my life here. You do not know me, Monsieur B. You have no idea. You are merely trying for some kind of insult. You cannot insult me.

guillaumeb

(42,649 posts)
17. And your constant admonitions to think?
Tue Mar 26, 2019, 05:33 PM
Mar 2019

Your way of insulting?

Understood. And no, I do not know you, but I know your approach in this group. And that is sufficient.

MineralMan

(148,008 posts)
18. O wad some Pow'r the giftie gie us
Tue Mar 26, 2019, 06:47 PM
Mar 2019

To see oursels as ithers see us!
It wad frae mony a blunder free us,
An' foolish notion:
What airs in dress an' gait wad lea'e us,
An' ev'n devotion!

Robert Burns - from "To a Louse"

guillaumeb

(42,649 posts)
23. Indeed.
Tue Mar 26, 2019, 07:15 PM
Mar 2019

But can any of us really see ourselves as others see us?

Edited to add:

the Jean Giraudoux quote is my favorite.

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