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safeinOhio

(34,341 posts)
Wed Feb 20, 2019, 03:03 PM Feb 2019

The 7 Beatitudes vs the 10 Commandment.

What say you.

I'm a none of the above, but love to read Scripture. I've always questioned why so many Christians promote the 10 Commandments and never, or almost never the 7 Beatitudes. I find the Beatitudes much more Christian.

I've been kicked out of Bibles study groups.

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The 7 Beatitudes vs the 10 Commandment. (Original Post) safeinOhio Feb 2019 OP
Not a fan. Act_of_Reparation Feb 2019 #1
We can do better. safeinOhio Feb 2019 #2
Fortunately, those aren't the only choices. Act_of_Reparation Feb 2019 #7
It's only a hobby for me. safeinOhio Feb 2019 #9
The Beatitudes *are* more Christian. Dale Neiburg Feb 2019 #3
It depends a lot on the denomination. MineralMan Feb 2019 #4
"Blessed are the poor in spirit, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven." trotsky Feb 2019 #5
Perhaps they kicked you out for omitting a Beatitude... Anon-C Feb 2019 #6
That was a question that got me kicked out of one. safeinOhio Feb 2019 #10
How about The 8 I really rather you didn't. ??? underpants Feb 2019 #8
Can we get those posted in the public square? safeinOhio Feb 2019 #11
Be my guest underpants Feb 2019 #12
I don't think they were written down then, so safeinOhio Feb 2019 #13
Something I find interesting about the commandments Major Nikon Feb 2019 #14

Act_of_Reparation

(9,116 posts)
1. Not a fan.
Wed Feb 20, 2019, 03:16 PM
Feb 2019

Dubious moral strictures littered with questionable encouragements and a copious dollop of false hope. No thanks, I say. We can do better.

safeinOhio

(34,341 posts)
2. We can do better.
Wed Feb 20, 2019, 03:19 PM
Feb 2019

But, if I had to pick one, I'd take the false hope over authoritarianism every time.

safeinOhio

(34,341 posts)
9. It's only a hobby for me.
Wed Feb 20, 2019, 03:37 PM
Feb 2019

Like watching sports or collecting stamps.

Like you I'm not buying any of it.

Dale Neiburg

(759 posts)
3. The Beatitudes *are* more Christian.
Wed Feb 20, 2019, 03:21 PM
Feb 2019

They come from the New Testament, after all, while the Commandments are OT. But I suspect many Christians prefer the Ten Commandments because they're more authoritarian and less overtly "liberal" than the Beatitudes.

MineralMan

(148,024 posts)
4. It depends a lot on the denomination.
Wed Feb 20, 2019, 03:23 PM
Feb 2019

Most evangelical denominations don't spend a lot of time studying Matthew. They're more interested in Paul's letters. The Beatitudes point out too much for folks who think they're "all that." That makes them unpopular with uncharitable people.

The Old Testament 10 Commandments, on the other hand tell people what not to do, mostly. Jesus, according to what he was supposed to have said, took a more proactive position, and described what good people ought to do, instead. Trouble is that, in many cases, he told people they ought to do things they didn't really want to do, since that would often mean going against their own desires.

It's a paradox.

trotsky

(49,533 posts)
5. "Blessed are the poor in spirit, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven."
Wed Feb 20, 2019, 03:26 PM
Feb 2019

I'd rather work to make things better here than think someone else will make it better after we're dead.

But you're right, that's a pretty Christian attitude, historically.

Anon-C

(3,440 posts)
6. Perhaps they kicked you out for omitting a Beatitude...
Wed Feb 20, 2019, 03:30 PM
Feb 2019

...since there are 8?

right view, right resolve, right speech, right conduct, right livelihood, right effort, right mindfulness, and right samadhi.

Oops, wrong list...

The eight Beatitudes in Matthew:

3 “Blessed are the poor in spirit,
for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.
4 Blessed are those who mourn,
for they will be comforted.
5 Blessed are the meek,
for they will inherit the earth.
6 Blessed are those who hunger and thirst for righteousness,
for they will be filled.
7 Blessed are the merciful,
for they will be shown mercy.
8 Blessed are the pure in heart,
for they will see God.
9 Blessed are the peacemakers,
for they will be called children of God.
10 Blessed are those who are persecuted because of righteousness,
for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.
11 “Blessed are you when people insult you, persecute you and falsely say all kinds of evil against you because of me.
12 Rejoice and be glad, because great is your reward in heaven, for in the same way they persecuted the prophets who were before you.

safeinOhio

(34,341 posts)
10. That was a question that got me kicked out of one.
Wed Feb 20, 2019, 03:39 PM
Feb 2019

That along with asking How do we pray and what do we pray.

underpants

(187,418 posts)
8. How about The 8 I really rather you didn't. ???
Wed Feb 20, 2019, 03:35 PM
Feb 2019

http://flyingspaghettimonster.wikia.com/wiki/The_Eight_I%27d_Really_Rather_You_Didn%27ts


#1 I’d Really Rather You Didn’t act like a sanctimonious Holier-Than-Thou ass when describing my Noodly Goodness. If some people don’t believe in Me, that’s okay. Really, I’m not that vain. Besides, this isn’t about them so don’t change the subject.

#2 I’d Really Rather You Didn’t use my existence as a means to oppress, subjugate, punish, eviscerate, and/or, you know...be mean to others. I don’t require sacrifices, and purity is for drinking water, not people.

#3 I’d Really Rather You Didn’t judge people for the way they look, or how they dress, or the way they talk, or, well, just play nice, okay? Oh, and get this through your thick heads: Woman = person. Man = person. Samey-wamey. One is not better than the other unless we’re talking about fashion and I’m sorry, but I gave that to women and some guys who know the difference between teal and fuchsia.

#4 I’d Really Rather You Didn’t indulge in conduct that offends yourself, or your willing, consenting partner of legal age AND mental maturity. As for anyone who might object, I think the expression is "Go f*** yourself, unless they find that offensive in which case they can turn off the TV for once and go for a walk for a change."

#5 I’d Really Rather You Didn’t challenge the hateful ideas of others on an empty stomach. Eat, then go after the bastards.

#6 I’d Really Rather You Didn’t build multimillion-dollar churches/temples/mosques/shrines to my Noodly Goodness when the money could be better spent (Take your pick): 1. Ending poverty 2. Curing diseases 3. Living in peace, loving with passion, and lowering the cost of cable. I might be a Complex-Carbohydrate Omniscient Being, but I enjoy the simple things in life. I ought to know. I AM the Creator.

#7 I’d Really Rather You Didn’t go around telling people I talk to you. You’re not that Interesting. Get over yourself. And I told you to love your fellow man, can’t you take a hint?

#8 I’d Really Rather You Didn’t "do unto others as you would have them do unto you" if you are into, um, stuff that uses a lot of leather/lubricant/Las Vegas. If the other person is Into it, however (Pursuant to #4), then have at it, take pictures, and for the love of Mike, wear a CONDOM! Honestly, it’s a piece of rubber. If I didn’t want it to feel good when you did it I would have added spikes or something.

safeinOhio

(34,341 posts)
13. I don't think they were written down then, so
Wed Feb 20, 2019, 04:54 PM
Feb 2019

we could blast them on speakers in the original Aramaic.

Major Nikon

(36,911 posts)
14. Something I find interesting about the commandments
Wed Feb 20, 2019, 05:37 PM
Feb 2019

3 out of the 10 talk about things you can’t covet, so it appears as if coveting gets you put on the naughty list faster than just about anything.

You can’t covet your neighbor’s house, or your neighbor’s ass, or your neighbor’s slaves, or your neighbor’s wife.

Kinda interesting how coveting is such an egregious sin, but owning other people and regarding women as property is endorsed.

Probably a good reason not to get your morals from stone age nomadic sheep herders.

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