Très, très belle! Merçi! 😍

A kiss three times is traditional. There a profusion of kissing that goes on in our church community primarily on a joyous feastday.😘

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I may post a lively video showing. Mb get alerted on again. I pays my money, I takes my chances.😌 This place needs some levity.

Pulling an almost all nighter.

We are into Holupki, Halushki and Pirohi [Pierogies.]

Pagaçi. I forgot PAGAÇI!

Are you a native speaker in any relevant language?

My ancestors from CZECHOSLOVAKIA. They did not/could not/would not read Cyrillic, nor my parents, nor I.

Second generation AMERICAN.

What CIA? The Cosmetology Industry of America?

You jivin'...

Palačinki, Kiflicky, Koláč, Páska and more.

Every day in fact, I think about it.

But yes.

There is an element of irony here.

If you put a piece of that irony in a moral compass, where will it lead you?

The great prophets spent most of their time pointing out flaws, hypocrisies, evils, in precisely, Religion; in the most apparently religious persons of the day.

Following this, some suggest that (the Jewish atheist?) Karl Marx, was the latest and greatest Jewish prophet of our time.

Even the pope suggests that atheists have a respectable place in religion, Catholicism.

I agree with you on these points. But it is also important to acknowledge that, no matter the flaws, there is also good.

Perhaps you are right to concentrate on nature to find truth.

Metaphorically.

scientific truth in the universe, and attributes this truth to the Source.

And the observable truth is evidence of the Creator.

Mon chère,
Everything you do is nicely done. 😊
💙

And 2) the immense fruitfulness of the science and technology that came from observations of that, strongly suggest a natural, not supernatural "nature" behind everything.

3) Corroborating that, has been the recent philosophical failure of the uncaused first cause theory, the Argument from Design,..etc..

Further conclusive evidence includes 4) recent investigations, books,.showing that even the Bible itself finally,.amazingly, supported science, over faith. And even over its own authority.

"Test everything," said even the very spiritual Paul.. Test with "science" (Dan. 1.4-15 KJE).

I suppose religious persons could capitalize the "Nature" behind it all. Though I personally don't really like the hint there, of say, a similarly capitalized. "Creator."

So I'll give you that.

.. I like those stuffed cabbage things.

I have one here.
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I think in Minnesota ? they have a Pierogi Festival.😋

I worry about the pork or high fat content though. Tasty as it is.

of beef, turkey, chicken or mb some pork.

It's not a hard 'n' fast rule that you can't adjust the filling.

Some recipes call for canned tomato soup. I like a sauce made from scratch.

A touch of brown sugar in the sauce makes it special. Season the filling well.

It's a dish requiring some time to assemble, but the reward? Très mwah! 😋

Mon très cher,
You have a way with words.

Instead of just bashing them as being part of a faceless "choir" with no legitimate opinions of their own.

Or instead of insulting them by claiming they're mindlessly following a "commandment" that you invented to dismiss their opinions.

Or instead of trying to silence them by claiming everyone who expresses an opinion that differs from yours on your threads is engaging in "whataboutism."

I hope someday that your religion inspires you to listen to others.

And I do listen, every time something is posted in the Religion Group by an atheist.

And I even read other groups as well, including this little screed about theists. It is filled with insults, and condescension, and other things that, one assumes, reflect at the least the opinions of the author about theism and theists.

Edited to add:

Here is a small part of the wisdom of the post:

And selectively pulling posts from "safe haven" groups to try and compare to an OPEN FORUM is typical of your deceit and dishonesty.

Sorry, but you did ask if I listened. And I do. And what I read here is available to anyone to read, not just DU members. Anyone can read whatever is openly posted at DU.

Apparently you do not understand the terms deceit and dishonesty either. Perhaps you should research them, along with whataboutism.

You don't argue in good faith.

You won't listen to what people are telling you (insisting that you have the right to define atheism for atheists, for instance).

If multiple people disagree with you, you brand them as a "choir" to insinuate their responses are orchestrated and not sincere.

If someone criticizes your posts, you claim they aren't doing so out of sincere disagreement, but are only "compelled" to do so because of a fictional "commandment" you created and believe they must follow.

You dehumanize and insult all who disagree with you.

Truly deplorable, guillaumeb. And you truly think you are behaving like a good Christian should?

And I accept that you believe what you wrote. But I also have the evidence of your many replies to theists, and others, who post positive news about theism.

And that overwhelming evidence, evidence that is available for all to read, is the weakness of your scenario.

And the post that I linked to is filled with insults. Did you agree with the post?


Would you care to comment on it, and explain about dialogue? Talk about dehumanization indeed.

Is that a Christian approach to things? You judge others and punish them as you see fit?

No, I'm not going to comment on some random thread you found and linked to. Who cares?

I'm talking about YOUR behavior, guillaumeb.

Of course, I fully understand why you'd desperately want to change the subject.

And I understand why you will not respond to my questions.

This is about YOUR behavior. Are you excusing your behavior because someone else said something that made you act that way? You can control yourself, gil.

Look, when some people say bad things about religion or religious beliefs, you get really, really upset. That's been your trademark response as long as I've known you on DU. And when you get upset, you decide to insult, dehumanize, and demonize ANYONE who doesn't treat religion with the respect you think it deserves - whether that's me, MineralMan, Act_of_Reparation, Voltaire2, anyone who's been subjected to your "choir" or "11th commandment" insults.

If you don't like seeing criticism of religion, then STOP LOOKING AT IT. No one is forcing you go to searching through the Atheist & Agnostic safe haven looking for things you don't like so you can attack others as part of your holy crusade.

And, your hyperbolic and revealing response aside, and given the abundant evidence of your own posts, your comments are inadvertently ironic.

And I fully understand why you'd rather attack and insult me than look in a mirror.

So very Christian.

Well that's just neat. Is that what Jesus taught you to do?

You are constantly arguing in here that religion is irrational. You know, the times you talk about just having to have faith regardless of lack of evidence? That not rational. It's definitionally irrational.

And, side note, you are completely exhibiting the reason why safe haven groups exist on DU. Well done.

Note: unprovable and irrational are not synonymous.

Did you read the entire post?

Read it again.

And many types of nails.

...I'm afraid there isn't much time left over for religion.

#Priorities

A multitasker.