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WestMichRad

(1,884 posts) Tue Jan 23, 2024, 06:58 PM Jan 2024

Elected to baseball Hall of Fame in 2024:

Adrian Beltre (first ballot), Todd Helton and Joe Mauer. They join manager Jim Leyland, who was selected earlier by the Contemporary Baseball Era committee. All 4 will be inducted in a ceremony on July 21.

Yay guys!

Gary Sheffield didn’t make the cut, on his 10th and final ballot.

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Elected to baseball Hall of Fame in 2024: (Original Post) WestMichRad Jan 2024 OP

Colorado padded stats and the hall of very good strike again JT45242 Jan 2024 #1

Helton hit everywhere CanonRay Jan 2024 #2

Baseball reference for helton JT45242 Jan 2024 #3

Helton is above average for 1B players in HOF Redleg Jan 2024 #4

Could Be Right ProfessorGAC Jan 2024 #5

JT45242

(2,993 posts)

1. Colorado padded stats and the hall of very good strike again

Reply to WestMichRad (Original post)

Tue Jan 23, 2024, 07:06 PM

Jan 2024

Huge discrepancy between home and away stays playing in Coors field. Even paying at Coors he didn't get to 1500 rbi or 3000 hits.

Beltre may have used roids, but is not a jerk like Bonds so we let him in. We aren't sure because bud selig and others selectively leaked names from the positive tests.

The inconsistency of the baseball hall of fame just makes me sick.

CanonRay

(14,928 posts)

2. Helton hit everywhere

Reply to JT45242 (Reply #1)

Tue Jan 23, 2024, 07:16 PM

Jan 2024

Not just at Coors. Well deserved.

JT45242

(2,993 posts)

3. Baseball reference for helton

Reply to JT45242 (Reply #1)

Tue Jan 23, 2024, 11:02 PM

Jan 2024

Colorado home stats.345/.607/.952

Away stats .287/.469/.855

When he was first eligible someone on MLB radio said he had a bigger difference in home away stats than anyone in the HOF. Didn't double check but those guys usually get their facts straight.

Corner infielder with .855 likely doesn't get in hof.

Redleg

(6,248 posts)

4. Helton is above average for 1B players in HOF

Reply to JT45242 (Reply #3)

Thu Jan 25, 2024, 03:18 PM

Jan 2024

His wins above replacement (WAR) and JAWS numbers are above average for HOF 1B but he did seem to benefit from playing at Coors field. My man Joey Votto is listed higher than Helton so I will have my fingers crossed when he finally goes up for the vote.

ProfessorGAC

(70,599 posts)

5. Could Be Right

Reply to JT45242 (Reply #3)

Sun Jan 28, 2024, 05:21 PM

Jan 2024

Not fair to compare anyone to the Babe, but the home-away split differential for Ruth was .008.
Helton's differential is nearly 8x that.
Seems like a lot to me.

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