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Related: About this forumWhy public EV chargers almost never work as fast as promised
For EV drivers traversing the great state of Wyoming, the Smiths grocery store in Rock Springs is an oasis. Its just off Interstate 80, theres a Petco across the street, and it has six plugs promising to charge at 350 kilowatts. At that rate, a Tesla Model 3 could go from empty to full in the time it takes to hit the bathroom and grab a Snickers.
But when I limped up to the station last month in a Rivian R1S crammed with one dog and two kids that 350 kW may as well have been a mirage. Rivians SUV charges at 220 kW at best, and the charger itself crimped the hose to just 50 kW. With one pit stop, our carefully planned seven-hour road trip got two hours longer.
For starters, an EV itself can only suck up electrons so quickly. Of the 55 electric models now available in the U.S., half charge above 200 kW and only five can charge at 350 kW. Those speeds are further compromised when its very hot or very cold. Temperature extremes can damage a lithium-ion battery, so automakers program their cars to slow a charge in certain temperatures.
That gap risks hurting EV adoption in the U.S., where charging speed has become a marketing metric. Automakers like to trumpet how quickly their cars can go from 10% or 20% full to 80%, while public charging stations tend to display maximum charge rate not average or expected right on the machines. Some 17% of U.S. public chargers are rated 100 kW-plus, according to BloombergNEF, compared with 10% in the UK and 2% in the Netherlands.
But when I limped up to the station last month in a Rivian R1S crammed with one dog and two kids that 350 kW may as well have been a mirage. Rivians SUV charges at 220 kW at best, and the charger itself crimped the hose to just 50 kW. With one pit stop, our carefully planned seven-hour road trip got two hours longer.
For starters, an EV itself can only suck up electrons so quickly. Of the 55 electric models now available in the U.S., half charge above 200 kW and only five can charge at 350 kW. Those speeds are further compromised when its very hot or very cold. Temperature extremes can damage a lithium-ion battery, so automakers program their cars to slow a charge in certain temperatures.
That gap risks hurting EV adoption in the U.S., where charging speed has become a marketing metric. Automakers like to trumpet how quickly their cars can go from 10% or 20% full to 80%, while public charging stations tend to display maximum charge rate not average or expected right on the machines. Some 17% of U.S. public chargers are rated 100 kW-plus, according to BloombergNEF, compared with 10% in the UK and 2% in the Netherlands.
https://www.detroitnews.com/story/business/autos/2024/09/07/why-public-ev-chargers-almost-never-work-as-fast-as-promised/75122407007/
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Why public EV chargers almost never work as fast as promised (Original Post)
MichMan
Sep 2024
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brush
(58,018 posts)1. Hybrids seem to be the best answer until battery tech advances more.
mitch96
(14,766 posts)2. It's like claimed internet speeds. Never as fast as they say..nt
Voltaire2
(14,869 posts)3. I've owned an ev for six years and used a public
charger four times.
The horrors of plugging my car in at night and never having to go to a gas station are unimaginable.
Think. Again.
(19,040 posts)4. Public air tire-filling machines are the worst.
About half the time they are simply "Out of Order' and when they do work, either they take forever or the pressure gauge is way off.
And don't get me started on empty window wash set-ups at most stations.