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usonian

(14,592 posts)
Sat Jun 15, 2024, 10:13 AM Jun 2024

Tesla's FSD - a Useless Technology Demo (author documents failures)

https://tomverbeure.github.io/2024/05/20/Tesla-FSD-First-and-Last-Impressions.html

Skip to the conclusions ( who doesn't? )

The way it currently behaves, FSD is a system that can’t be trusted to make the right decisions. It makes the most basic mistakes and it makes many of them.

Without FSD, you pay attention to the road and everything else is within your control. With FSD, you still need to pay attention but now there’s the additional cognitive load to monitor an unpredictable system over which you don’t have direct control. Forget about just being focused, you need to be hyper-focused, and you need to pay $99 per month or a one time fee of $12,000 for the privilege. With the limited functionality of autopilot, you hit the sweet spot: adaptive cruise control and lane centering work reliably, and you don’t need to worry about any other mischief.

Maybe one day I’ll be able to drive to Lake Tahoe by typing in the address, sit back, take a nap, or play on my phone. Until then, it’s just a fancy technology demo with little practical value.


Scary use case:



The second traffic light has a don’t-turn-on-red sign. The light was red, the Tesla came to a full stop, and then pressed on the gas to move on while the light was still red. (According to my colleague, police often lay in wait at this location to catch violators.)


Pressed on the gas? 💨
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Tesla's FSD - a Useless Technology Demo (author documents failures) (Original Post) usonian Jun 2024 OP
Have a dead wheel sensor on small Toyota. Arne Jun 2024 #1
FSD - Full Self Driving Midnight Writer Jun 2024 #2
With all of these systems Old Crank Jul 2024 #3

Arne

(3,608 posts)
1. Have a dead wheel sensor on small Toyota.
Sat Jun 15, 2024, 10:33 AM
Jun 2024

It disables the anti lock braking and traction.
I like it that way.

Old Crank

(4,889 posts)
3. With all of these systems
Wed Jul 3, 2024, 10:02 AM
Jul 2024

cruise, adaptive-cruise, auto-pilot, full driving, under no case should the vehicle be able to speed unless under the direct control of a human driver. (meaning the system isn't in control.)

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