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Related: About this forumTech and drugs: Killings across three states shine spotlight on cultlike 'Zizian' group
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/feb/15/zizian-group-killingsKillings across three states shine spotlight on cultlike ‘Zizian’ group
Police search for member currently on the run from charges linked to killings across the US
The Associated Press and Edward Helmore in New York
Sat 15 Feb 2025 09.28 EST
The killing of US border patrol agent David Maland near the Canadian border in January and five other homicides in Vermont, Pennsylvania and California have been tied to a cultlike group known as the Zizians.
The group, described as a fringe group of radical Berkeley pseudo-intellectuals, is believed to be behind the double homicide of a wealthy Pennsylvania couple, two knife attacks on a landlord in California and the shootout in Vermont that left one member dead.
Four alleged members of the group are already in custody on murder charges while three are on the run, including Jack Amadeus “Ziz” LaSota, 34, who goes by she/her pronouns and is the group’s apparent leader. Some of the members have worked at the tech giant Google, and many have advocated for veganism and identify as transgender.
Along the way, the group is believed to have bought a tugboat in Alaska under a plan to live on it to avoid high rents in northern California. The tugboat, part of the group’s “Rationalist Fleet”, now sits half-submerged near Pillar Point Harbor near San Jose.
Much of what is know about the Zizians’ philosophy is gleaned from online postings in which LaSota wondered what would happen to society if it were stripped of morality through “evil people ganging up to kill off good people” or if the group’s goals “ultimately required sociopathy”.
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Tech and drugs: Killings across three states shine spotlight on cultlike 'Zizian' group (Original Post)
cbabe
Feb 15
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usonian
(16,841 posts)1. See also A 'death cult' on the run: The Bay Area fringe group terrorizing America (SFGATE)
https://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/new-details-bay-area-zizians-death-cult-20165754.php
By Andrew Chamings, Katie Dowd
Feb 13, 2025
quote a bit of detail at the link.
By Andrew Chamings, Katie Dowd
Feb 13, 2025
sprawling web of violence across America, which has left at least six dead, has been linked to a fringe group of radical Berkeley pseudo-intellectuals known as the Zizians. Investigators across the country are piecing together connections between the double homicide of a wealthy married couple in Pennsylvania, a deadly shootout in Vermont and two brutal knife attacks on a landlord in Vallejo. Four people who are allegedly Zizian cult members are in custody facing homicide charges, despite multiple escape attempts. Three members of the fringe group are missing and wanted, including the leader, Jack “Ziz” LaSota, who faked their death in the San Francisco Bay.
Around a dozen individuals appear to have in-person links to Ziz, some of whom worked at NASA and Google before the arrests began. Many of them advocate for veganism and identify as transgender. Some met through the Machine Intelligence Research Institute, a Berkeley nonprofit buoyed by Peter Thiel and Sam Bankman-Fried and associated with the rationalist movement; MIRI warns about the dangers of AI and studies the “mathematical underpinnings of intelligent behavior.”
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The FBI declined to comment on its investigation into the Zizians for this story but pointed toward the wider conspiracy in a statement issued after Teresa Youngblut’s arrest.
“Teresa Youngblut is believed to have associations with other individuals suspected of violent acts in multiple states, to include Pennsylvania and California,” Sarah Ruane, a spokeswoman for the FBI’s Albany, New York, office said in a statement. “The FBI is coordinating information sharing on any case related details with our partners from various law enforcement agencies to effectively follow every lead and aggressively investigate these connections.”
Around a dozen individuals appear to have in-person links to Ziz, some of whom worked at NASA and Google before the arrests began. Many of them advocate for veganism and identify as transgender. Some met through the Machine Intelligence Research Institute, a Berkeley nonprofit buoyed by Peter Thiel and Sam Bankman-Fried and associated with the rationalist movement; MIRI warns about the dangers of AI and studies the “mathematical underpinnings of intelligent behavior.”
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The FBI declined to comment on its investigation into the Zizians for this story but pointed toward the wider conspiracy in a statement issued after Teresa Youngblut’s arrest.
“Teresa Youngblut is believed to have associations with other individuals suspected of violent acts in multiple states, to include Pennsylvania and California,” Sarah Ruane, a spokeswoman for the FBI’s Albany, New York, office said in a statement. “The FBI is coordinating information sharing on any case related details with our partners from various law enforcement agencies to effectively follow every lead and aggressively investigate these connections.”
quote a bit of detail at the link.
LeftInTX
(32,761 posts)2. They are responsible for the Vermont Border Patrol shootout on Jan 20th
They just gotta make a Netflix docuseries about these craziness!
I can't figure it out by reading about...
Qanon meets Radical Vegans.....
Yeah, I get an Elon vibe from them also...
cbabe
(4,816 posts)3. Move fast and break things. Oh wait... we didn't mean break those things.