Someone I know read it and really liked it, and I've had other recommendations on it. Has anyone read it? It is all about America, it's people, geography, cultures, flora and fauna, the year before it was invaded by Europeans. Maybe it's one to keep on a book shelf and share.

and what was here even before the Indians were here.

I could see why they called this the "New World" and why it appeared to be a new world. Other cultures - Europe and all of its countries, Africa and many of its countries, India, Russia, Asia, etc., were all developed. They had cities, doctors, artists, armies, schools, chefs, castles, clothing and shoe fashions, and horses and cattle, chickens, etc.

America had trees, fish, deer, and an early native population when Columbus happened on its shores. I'd like to know about America from before 1000BCE to 1000AD to know why there was no development or what the hell happened to it. This was not a world any newer than the world that existed. Why did it appear so?
A topic for another forum I think.

1491 might answer some of those questions if somebody back then had asked them...

for the technological gap of pre-Columbian North and South America. It also explains why native North Americans were so vulnerable to European diseases, mostly small pox. I'm not familiar with Diamond's other books. I mostly read fiction these days.

The thing I have most retained from it is that humans have domesticated every single animal that it is possible to domesticate. Humans in Africa didn't domesticate the zebra because they were too stupid to do so, but because the zebra simply isn't domesticatible.

The other thing I got from the book is that humans are incredibly smart. We really are. We exploited whatever environment we wound up in to its fullest. No one group is necessarily smarter than any other. Although Diamond does say in another book that he thinks that Europeans won out only because they survived disease vectors, and he thinks certain other groups may be actually smarter.

I have long had an issue with those who vilify Christopher Columbus for bringing European diseases to the New World. While Columbus certainly had his flaws, had it not been for him, it would have been someone else. The separate evolution of Europeans and other peoples guaranteed that once they re-connected, there was going to be hell to pay. Europeans spent centuries in circumstances that bred disease and then immunity to those diseases. Humans in the other hemisphere didn't live in those kinds of conditions, so they didn't have those diseases nor those immunities. It was a set-up for the disaster that we know followed.

Had the European contact with the Western Hemisphere been delayed until a modern understanding of disease, there still would have been the inadvertent disease genocide that did take place. The separation of the populations meant that a genuine difference of disease contact and immunity was inevitable.

In a way the current global culture that allows disease vectors to spread across the planet in weeks is a good thing. Exposure to a novel disease will mean that those with an immunity will live. Those without will die. It sounds harsh, but that's how it goes.

We are subject to the laws of evolution whether we wish to admit it or not.

I agree about Christopher Columbus, of course. Europeans were bound to find and exploit the "new world" maybe within the next decade or so.

It's a fascinating subject, one that needs further exploration.

they were always here. there was no before.

Ray Bradbury.

by James Doss, of course.

This was my 2nd reading of the 17th and final book in the series. Doss' picture on the back cover is worth the price of the book.

I have two neighbors reading them, one man and a woman, both elderly like me, but I am leaving my 17 books to a young teen granddaughter because when she visited, she read the first one and liked it.

Haven't posted because reading from the first to the last all summer was boring to post, but not to read.

Cheers....

SW mystery about Kevin Kerney, ex-chief of detectives in Santa Fe, New Mexico. First book in series of 12.

http://www.stopyourekillingme.com/M_Authors/McGarrity_Michael.html


24th book of 2013, includes second readings.

by Matt Ruff.

9/11/01 was 9 November, 2001, and it was the Tigris & Euphrates World Trade Towers in Baghdad, second largest city in the United Arab States, that were brought down by Christian fundamentalists. Another plane flew into the Arab Defense Ministry in Riyadh, and a fourth plane was brought down by the passengers.

I'm all of 30 pages into it and it's very good so far.

From their website-

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This looks like a great anthology! I'm going to have to check it out.

It's fine as a horror story - a familiar haunted house set-up, and I have to admit that I'm enjoying reading about lots of the settings in the book with which I am quite familiar - like Cold Spring, Bear Mountain, Woodstock, 8th Avenue (New York), etc.

But I'm getting tired of reading lots of schlocky books, and I think I'm going to mix it up a bit and turn to some non-fiction for the next few reads when I'm done with this.

It contains four novellas

The Planter of Malata
The Partner
The Inn of the Two Witches
Because of the Dollars

because House seems SO much like a Shining copy, and Pet Sematary has been recced by many of my friends, so I'm going to spend time on the yarn from one who's copied. And Pet is good - I started last night and I'm on page 50 already, which is pretty fast reading for me, but it's a good story that I don't get too distracted from, so it goes much more quickly than something like War And Peace or Moby Dick.