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littlemissmartypants

(25,896 posts)
Tue Feb 26, 2019, 07:33 AM Feb 2019

Broadband

Last edited Tue Feb 26, 2019, 01:12 PM - Edit history (1)

NC Govenor Roy Cooper talked about income disparity, internet connectedness disparity, somewhat last night in his State of the State Address. I can tell you there have already been billions of dollars in government money given to the states for computer access and yet we in rural areas STILL, 10 years later, wait indefinitely, to be connected. We want to be creating our own jobs, going to school on line and helping our kids with the homework. Still we wait. How long? How much longer? The infrastructure exists. I know because it's across the street and not just at my house.

There is fiber installed underground across the street from me but the carrier won't connect me because there's a person's per square foot rule requirement and I am not enough people to justify the cost of connection because I sit on a farm with open acreage and few people. So I wait.

So for over ten yrs there has been high speed fiber across the street from the house that I can't get access to but that the US GOVERNMENT paid BILLIONS OF DOLLARS IN SUBSIDIES to the carrier for the internet connection to no where.

A church coalition, actually started the petitioning of the government for the access. Some of their literature is still available on line. Here's their home page: http://nationalcouncilofchurches.us/

Here's a video that was produced to advertise the roll out of the new Internet connectivity project, aka broadband.
Check out the date, 2009. Ten years is a long time. Think about all of the revenue I could have generated from home if the cable crossed the street. Think of the jobs I could have created.



Statement from FCC commissioner:



Slide Show:

https://www.slideshare.net/gschaub/bring-betty-broadband

Press Release:
http://www.ncccusa.org/news/090715bettybroadband.html

More media:

https://siliconangle.com/2009/07/14/new-interfaith-media-coalition-launches-campaign-to-bring-betty-broadband/

More media:

http://broadbandbreakfast.com/2009/04/congress-to-reexamine-consumer-privacy-on-broadband-networks/

http://broadbandbreakfast.com/2019/02/broadband-bluegrass-and-beer-how-rural-communities-are-getting-innovative-with-broadband-applications/

Stimulus package

https://www.cnet.com/news/stimulus-bill-includes-7-2-billion-for-broadband/

Stimulus bill includes $7.2 billion for broadband
President Obama signs the economic recovery package, which includes billions to be spent on broadband within the next two years.

Stephanie Condon
BY STEPHANIE CONDON
FEBRUARY 17, 2009 5:05 PM PST
Updated at 3 p.m. PST with comments from industry representatives.

President Obama signed into law on Tuesday the $787 billion stimulus package, which includes $7.2 billion for broadband grant and loan programs.


Both the House of Representatives and the Senate on Friday approved a conference report that reconciled the two chambers' versions of the bill.

The bulk of the funds directed at broadband--$4.7 billion--will be distributed through a program run by the Commerce Department, while $2.5 billion will fall under the jurisdiction of the Agriculture Department, giving particular emphasis to broadband deployment in rural areas.


The final version of the bill maintains that projects funded by the Commerce Department's National Telecommunications and Information Administration must adhere to nondiscrimination and openness principles. The funds must also be distributed before September 30, 2010, to projects that can be completed within two years.


The NTIA's "Broadband Technology Opportunities Program" is intended to "award competitive grants to accelerate broadband deployment in unserved and underserved areas and to strategic institutions that are likely to create jobs or provide significant public benefits," the bill says.

No part of the bill, however, defines the terms "broadband," "unserved area," or "underserved area." The NTIA is instructed to work with the Federal Communications Commission to define these terms.

The House version of the bill had included specific broadband speed thresholds for grant recipients, but the compromise version simply instructs the NTIA to fund projects that provide the highest possible speeds to consumers.


"A specific speed threshold," the bill says, "could have the unintended result of thwarting broadband deployment in certain areas."

Rather than specify that certain portions of the NTIA funds go to rural areas, the bill says the $4.7 billion is intended to serve all parts of the country, including rural, suburban, and urban areas. The money may also go to any recipient that best serves an area's needs, including wireless providers, wireline providers, or any provider offering to construct last-mile, middle-mile, or long-haul facilities.

The trade association Wireless Communications Association International said it is particularly pleased that commercial entities are clearly eligible for direct grants from the NTIA.


"WCAI members stand ready to move forward with plans to bring wireless broadband to rural and underserved areas," said WCAI President Fred Campbell. "Having direct access to grant funding will allow them to do so in a timely manner, helping create jobs fast, enable productivity, and jump-start our economy."

At least $200 million of the NTIA funds must go to competitive grants for programs that encourage sustainable broadband adoption, while an additional $200 million in grants is set aside for expanding public computer center capacity. Another $350 million will fund the Broadband Data Improvement Act, to develop a broadband inventory map and provide for certain grants.

The legislation also requires the FCC within one year to create a "national broadband plan" to ensure that everyone in the U.S. has broadband access.


While the Senate intended to distribute only $100 million in broadband funds through the Agriculture Department's Rural Utilities Service, the final number--$2.5 billion-- is much closer to the House's plan to allocate about $2.8 billion through the RUS.

Some have expressed concern that the funds may not be allocated efficiently if distributed through two agencies. Derek Turner, research director for the public policy group Free Press, told CNET News last week that groups eligible for grants may not know whether to apply for grants through the RUS or the NTIA. Grant recipients may not receive funds from both.

"With a program this massive you need it to be overseen by a single agency," Turner said, "and the NTIA is essentially the policy adviser for the president on telecommunications."

The RUS funds focus more on rural broadband access, requiring that at least 75 percent of an area receiving funds be in a rural area without sufficient high-speed broadband access. The RUS will give priority to projects that give consumers a choice of more than one service provider.

Advocates of universal broadband access were, overall, very pleased with the legislation.
"The broadband stimulus package is a clear sign that Congress is committed to connecting our country and maintaining an open Internet," Turner said. "These funds will provide a much-needed shot in the arm to those communities still stuck on the wrong side of the digital divide."

The American Cable Association, which represents more than 900 smaller and medium-size independent cable companies, praised the legislation's emphasis on providing rural areas with broadband.

"ACA and its members understand more than anyone what it takes to provide high-speed Internet service in small markets and rural areas across the country; they have been doing it for years," ACA President and CEO Matthew Polka said in a statement. "Funding broadband programs will enable small and medium-sized cable operators, who have already invested significant private capital into their communities, to receive funds to invest in the infrastructure improvements necessary to offer more advanced broadband services."



We don't know where ALL the Billions went but we do know there's cable underground and children can't connect to it to do their homework, for almost ten years now. What's it going to take to make this right?
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Broadband (Original Post) littlemissmartypants Feb 2019 OP
Surrounded by 3 small towns with independent phone co's all have fiber to the house. IADEMO2004 Feb 2019 #1
yup... centurylink here also... 912gdm Feb 2019 #3
I hear you Kali Feb 2019 #2
All I can get is satellite jcgoldie Apr 2019 #4

IADEMO2004

(5,926 posts)
1. Surrounded by 3 small towns with independent phone co's all have fiber to the house.
Tue Feb 26, 2019, 08:16 AM
Feb 2019

My less than 6000 pop town served by CenturyLink. Miserable slow DSL you have to beg to be connected. If I didn't personally know an employee I still wouldn't have DSL. That's life on the lowest hanging dingleberry on the CenturyLink corporate body.

912gdm

(959 posts)
3. yup... centurylink here also...
Wed Feb 27, 2019, 07:17 PM
Feb 2019

I HATE them!. there was a period for about 3 months that the net would go out every time it rained...

Kali

(55,876 posts)
2. I hear you
Tue Feb 26, 2019, 12:18 PM
Feb 2019

there are 6 or 8 huge FO cables in bundles going right past my house. I was told there was no way to do a single connection. I have always thought that was bullshit. I have a private tap off a 16 inch natural gas line, why can't they connect me to the FO line? I was on (slow) dial up off 60 year old phone line for years, then I had a cell phone modem for a while. now I am on wifi off a communication tower about a 1/4 mile behind my house but they can't give me the faster business connection they advertise for some inexplicable reason.

jcgoldie

(12,046 posts)
4. All I can get is satellite
Wed Apr 3, 2019, 09:09 AM
Apr 2019

No DSL, no wifi, nada. I'm about 8 miles outside a town of 40 k and 25 mi north of St.Louis. I get calls from the cable company offering to hook me up all the time. I say go for it. Then in a couple hours they call back and say sorry you are 3500 feet too far.

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