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Duncanpup

(13,793 posts) Wed Nov 2, 2022, 12:42 PM Nov 2022

As old infantry soldier I don't know shit yet I explain to putin fans the Russian army is done.

The Ukrainian Army is a like us the west American army we are a professional army from officers command control to squads level to platoon level you have NCO corp sgts leadership that is motivated. NCO run the army it’s fact they lead young soldiers and teach young officers.

Ukraine army has destroyed the professional Russian army up next one million conscripts. Is quantity problem with these kremlin conscripts yes, are these conscripts trained No nor are they motivated to die for putin. I’m thinking Vlad will end up even losing Donbas what he annexed invaded 2014.

I ramble yet the Russian army I’m old now these pigs are rapist torturing fucks I hate them as soldier you do not hurt civilians the Russians army is like Serbs they are animals.

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As old infantry soldier I don't know shit yet I explain to putin fans the Russian army is done. (Original Post) Duncanpup Nov 2022 OP

They are importing artillery shells from North Korea. That is how badly applegrove Nov 2022 #1

Now that is sad... Omnipresent Nov 2022 #4

2014 Was a Very important year 4Q2u2 Nov 2022 #2

I understand you Chief as young infantry troop I had fine NCO Duncanpup Nov 2022 #3

Ukr sent draftees to the area, so every year many people saw action in the Donbas Bernardo de La Paz Nov 2022 #5

Thank you for your analysis! Malcolm Nance, who is there says the Ukrainian soldiers have gone PortTack Nov 2022 #6

In the late 90s sarisataka Nov 2022 #7

It is impossible to underestimate the importance to good cohesion and discipline, Aristus Nov 2022 #8

Back at you on Veterans Day Aristus Duncanpup Nov 2022 #9

applegrove

(123,610 posts)

1. They are importing artillery shells from North Korea. That is how badly

Reply to Duncanpup (Original post)

Wed Nov 2, 2022, 12:51 PM

Nov 2022

it is going for Russia.

Omnipresent

(6,469 posts)

4. Now that is sad...

Reply to applegrove (Reply #1)

Wed Nov 2, 2022, 01:05 PM

Nov 2022

Putin is desperate for crappily made weapons.

4Q2u2

(1,406 posts)

2. 2014 Was a Very important year

Reply to Duncanpup (Original post)

Wed Nov 2, 2022, 12:57 PM

Nov 2022

After that first Russian invasion. Ukraine totally revamped its military from the Old Soviet type to NATO type and US Troops started to train them in late 2014 early 2015. Ukraine also instituted a plan to develop a Professional NCO Corps for their Military. Also creating a volunteer force vs, a Conscription Force. All these have paid off with a strong viable professional Army that is kicking the crap out of the ruskie's.

Senior Enlisted Leader in the Navy myself. Senior Chief USN (Ret.)

Duncanpup

(13,793 posts)

3. I understand you Chief as young infantry troop I had fine NCO

Reply to 4Q2u2 (Reply #2)

Wed Nov 2, 2022, 01:04 PM

Nov 2022

Leading our platoon these NCO infantry were fine leaders they taught us they took care of us.

Bernardo de La Paz

(51,252 posts)

5. Ukr sent draftees to the area, so every year many people saw action in the Donbas

Reply to 4Q2u2 (Reply #2)

Wed Nov 2, 2022, 01:09 PM

Nov 2022

Thus Ukr troops were experienced in addition to being trained by Canadians, Americans, and others.

PortTack

(34,830 posts)

6. Thank you for your analysis! Malcolm Nance, who is there says the Ukrainian soldiers have gone

Reply to Duncanpup (Original post)

Wed Nov 2, 2022, 01:24 PM

Nov 2022

Full on Cossack. He is very impressed.

sarisataka

(21,268 posts)

7. In the late 90s

Reply to Duncanpup (Original post)

Wed Nov 2, 2022, 02:38 PM

Nov 2022

I was involved in training former Warsaw Pact troops for UN deployment in the former Yugoslavia. Even back then we rated the Ukrainians as the second best of the seventeen countries we worked with.

Aristus

(68,617 posts)

8. It is impossible to underestimate the importance to good cohesion and discipline,

Reply to Duncanpup (Original post)

Fri Nov 11, 2022, 01:17 PM

Nov 2022

combat morale and readiness, of a professional Non-Commissioned Officer Corps.

Any army with professional NCO's is going to trounce a conscript army with 'ninety-day wonder' sergeants.

Slava Ukrani!

Happy Veterans Day, Duncanpup!

Duncanpup

(13,793 posts)

9. Back at you on Veterans Day Aristus

Reply to Aristus (Reply #8)

Fri Nov 11, 2022, 02:45 PM

Nov 2022

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