Gun Control & RKBA
Related: About this forumI have somehow found myself checking out a Diablo 12 gauge pistol and have a question...
Does this thing have a problem with shotgun short barrel lengths, or is it considered a pistol so can have 6" barrel?
(At any rate, I'm not sure it's all that useful, but it is fascinating.)
Lithos
(26,474 posts)I got to hold a very old (circa 1900) pistol shotgun - 410. It was designed for farmers who needed to carry something in their tractor, or out in the field, to protect them from poisonous snakes (generally rattle snakes). At least that's what my great-great uncle who owned it told me why he got such a thing.
cayugafalls
(5,755 posts)You can even have it mailed to you.
You have to load it with primer and shot yourself just like the old days.
Edited to add: You do not need an FFL to get this gun. It can be mailed direct to your door.
TreasonousBastard
(43,049 posts)Easier to clean?
cayugafalls
(5,755 posts)Powder and shot goes in the front.
cayugafalls
(5,755 posts)There is some overpowder wads before the shot, I have a friend who swears by muzzleloaders, not sure why he likes them, they are really a pain in the butt.
texasfiddler
(2,194 posts)It is legal.
cayugafalls
(5,755 posts)TreasonousBastard
(43,049 posts)cayugafalls
(5,755 posts)He puts the overwads in wrong. Thicker overpowder wad first over the powder. The thinner overshot wad goes in second over the shot.
If you decide to pull the trigger and get this gun, watch some other videos on loading muzzleloaders to get the hang of it.
Have fun!
brush
(58,284 posts)all armed, I'm thinking of buying a pistol. The guy on the video mentioned buying online. Is it possible to buy a pistol online and have it shipped to my door?
cayugafalls
(5,755 posts)They are not that easy to load and only two shots. But they do not require anything more than buying and shipping to your door.
Lots of things are needed for this type of gun. Primers, Powder, overpowder wads, overshot wads, and shot (various kinds of shot available). This pistol, when properly loaded has a good kick and can be quite a bit to handle as it is a 12 gauge.
Here is the company page for this gun.
https://americanguncraft.com/product/diablo-break-open-blued-finish-12-gauge-pistol-rosewood-grip/
It has good information and a video. No license or FFL required, you can order direct and ship to your door. This is the only type of pistol that can do this. All other conventional pistols require a license and FFL dealer. You have to pass a background check as well.
The advantage of a conventional pistol is ease of loading and multi shot capability. Either way you go, please take some lessons. They are fairly inexpensive and teach basic handling and safety.
cayugafalls
(5,755 posts)is the range. This 12 gauge is a short range weapon due to barrel length.
brush
(58,284 posts)What do I need to buy one online?
cayugafalls
(5,755 posts)Basically, you purchase a gun from an online gun dealer and have the gun transferred to an local FFL licensed dealer.
Once your gun arrives at your local FFL, you go to pick it up and fill out all the paperwork and get the background check. After completion, you walk out with your gun. Check your states laws on gun sales for any differences. I am in Texas so it is pretty easy.
FFL transfer is usually between $25 and $50 per transaction. They will not ship directly to your door, it has to go to a licensed FFL so they can do the NICS check.
https://www.midwayusa.com/buy-guns-online
brush
(58,284 posts)cayugafalls
(5,755 posts)Hope this helps.
brush
(58,284 posts)cayugafalls
(5,755 posts)the teeth.
I have been trained and have several guns, since you never know what will happen.
So, I felt compelled to make sure my family was not an easy target.
Do you live in? Im in CA, if you live in the same state i might be able to answer some questions for you.
brush
(58,284 posts)Say is NV has lax gun laws compared to CA. So i can't help you. Good luck with your endeavors.
James48
(4,625 posts)At 7 yards, the buckshot had like a four foot spread. I guess if you Stay 10 yards away and turn sideways, you pretty much Might be able to avoid it completely.
Not what I would consider a great self-defense firearm.
cayugafalls
(5,755 posts)He did not properly load the overpowder wad and overshot wad, that reduced the power and spread.
Properly loaded he would have had better results. But to be truthful, this is a very short barrel and accuracy and spread is only good for about 10 yards at best. This is a close range weapon due to barrel length.
aikoaiko
(34,204 posts)Too long to be a pistol and it has unrifled bore.
Not shouldered to be a rifle (short-barreled or otherwise)
Not considered NFA AOW apparently.
It's just a general firearm and governed under general firearms rules.
https://www.mossberg.com/product/590-nightstick-6-shot/