Just ask the cops. They'll tell ya.

...in places OC is acceptable. This would be more like 'discrete' carry. Packing a gun that looks like a phone in the open won't likely equal concealed carry in the eyes of the law. I'm not seeing this as a very useful product but more of a novelty. So, it will probably sell like hotcakes.

and such assholes will now have even better chances of getting off when killing innocent people.

No, it's not useful; it's dangerous, to society.

This is kind of a really stupid toy.
Two shots may not be enough in an actual SD encounter.
LE encounters may end badly for many.

This is probably best left to the secret agents and paranoid drug pushers.

It's not like me to forget that tag.

Guns disguised as other objects have been around since, well, since there were guns. They are Federally regulated already under the NFA. They are classified as AOW's and the process to get approval for one is similar to that to get a machine gun, silencer, or sawed off.

I have no idea how this won't get ruled an AOW by the ATF as its purposely designed to look like something other then a gun.

because it folds down, at least they did with some pen gun.
http://www.pengun.com/

I agree, I don't see it selling.

more as a curiosity, though

https://www.amazon.com/Wallet-Holster-Full-Concealment-Derringers/dp/B01EDPLZF6

over sized .380 for $575 MSRP. I have yet to see one in a gun shop, and yet to see it mentioned in a gun blog. The free market will ban it for you.

That puts it in the novelty category.
like umbrella/cigarette pack/lock/pen/butane lighter guns.

it'll be one of those things sitting in gun collection with a notation "Developed in 2017, less than 500 were sold before being discontinued" or it'll be on a website like this

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useful to stop an attack by an individual who has the intention of putting me in a hospital for an extended period or six feet under and has the ability to do so.

In my opinion two .380 caliber rounds fired from what is effectively a derringer lacks the stopping power to be capable of accomplishing this purpose.



I prefer to carry a .38+P S&W Model 642 revolver in my pants pocket. It holds 5 rounds of significantly more powerful ammo and I can merely put my hand in my pocket and draw the revolver and it’s ready to fire. No fiddling around to turn it from something that looks like a phone to a weapon. Plus I can buy the Model 642 with laser sights for less than the Ideal Conceal.



Another factor is that if I am attacked it is quite possible that drawing a snub nosed revolver will deter my attacker and cause him to run away. That may not happen if I grab something that looks like a cell phone from my belt and point it at my attacker. I have no desire to ever have to shoot someone unless it is absolutely necessary. Of course I would never pull my weapon unless I thought the situation met those requirements. However if the attacker turned and ran before I could pull the trigger that would be fine with me.