Gun Control & RKBA
Related: About this forumWisconsin family is suing school over pro-gun T-shirts.
The story was on a Milwaukee station yesterday, and something just doesn't smell right.
The kid seems over-eager to get attention, and during the segment, the parents made sure to be filmed in front of tons of stuff that said "Jesus" on it.
Wisconsin student sues school district over ban on his gun T-shirts
MARKESAN, Wis. (WISN) - A Wisconsin student is suing his school over his gun T-shirt.
The teen said the principal banned him from wearing it, which he says is violating his right to free speech.
"I didn't think it would get this big, this bad," Matthew Schoenecker said.
Matthew is a Markesan High School freshman and has run head-on into the principal, over his shirts depicting guns and other weapons.
"I enjoy shooting, and I enjoy the Second Amendment, like the right to keep and bear arms," Matthew said.
Matthew and his parents were told before spring break that he could no longer come to school wearing a T-shirt portraying guns, bombs or grenades. When he went to school Friday with a gun T-shirt on, he was sent directly to the principal's office.
http://www.wbay.com/content/news/Wisconsin-student-sues-school-district-over-ban-on-his-gun-T-shirts-479365043.html
lkinwi
(1,528 posts)Set up?
DemocracyMouse
(2,275 posts)1) A principle is tasked with maintaining an organized, civilized school not to oppress, but to foster learning and contemplation.
2) The 2nd Amendment is predicated on a well-regulated militia, not an all-bullets-akimbo situation.
Both involve a well-regulated environment. Everything that stupid T-shirt represents is backwards and ridiculous. Grow up Republicans! Stop the idiocy.
Thank you.
gejohnston
(17,502 posts)No. The principal is tasked with educating and ensuring that the staff is neutral with it comes to all things political and religious. Any staff member who doesn't get it, or violates it, should be immediately and publicly fired. Take last month's walk outs. As long as it was students acting on their own with no encouragement (or discouragement outside of a blanket "yes" or "no" from administration), its all good. With that precedent set, any variation from school staff on other causes should not be tolerated.
The same should apply to public colleges. Doesn't matter if I agree with the cause or not.
Well regulated meant well functioning.
I don't believe in dress codes. My support for the kid has nothing to do with my opinion on guns.
DemocracyMouse
(2,275 posts)...and therefore the adults tasked with running a school or a country should use their common sense on the matter. I think you're overcomplicating the issue.
Also, I was drawing attention to parallel idiocies. Our gun policies are not congruent with the constitutional mandate to foster a "well regulated militia". Letting a child disturband threaten with a gun T-shirt does not foster a learning environment.
gejohnston
(17,502 posts)only in your opinion.
Also, "well regulated" meant well functioning.
http://guncite.com/gc2ndana.html
Your first "idiocy" is counter to the founding documents, Enlightenment thinking (like Natural Law Theory) that inspired the founders, and history. Your second is just absurd.
DemocracyMouse
(2,275 posts)There is a world of difference between a school setting standards of behavior and what you seem to be suggesting.
Interesting how this ties into the Facebook culture problem and their dragging their feet so long to pay editors to oversee the swill that's been circulating the lies and distortions flooding in from Russia and its Trumpian allies.
Am I threatened by such drek? By propaganda? You betcha. Look what it's done to Russia and beginning to do to us.
Time for some adults (caring people) to say: "Kiddo, no you can't wear that provocative gun on your T-shirt." Time to stand up for civilization. Sorry, I don't want children (and their unfiltered corporate/violent computer game ethos) running the school. We have dumbed down enough.
The price of freedom is eternal vigilance.
And "well-regulated," even if you twist it into "well functioning," still isn't congruent with the poorly regulated, massacre-rich gun situation of today.
Ban the assault rifles and bump stocks. Tell the kids to focus on their homework and not their vanity. And treat Facebook as a virtual education environment requiring some oversight by educated adults. (And call Zuckerberg's parents and implore them to send him back to college to finish his education, preferably down the road at MIT where Noam Chomsky teaches.)
gejohnston
(17,502 posts)it is either a free country or it isn't.
Am I threatened by such drek? By propaganda? You betcha. Look what it's done to Russia and beginning to do to us.
The price of freedom is eternal vigilance
And "well-regulated," even if you twist it into "well functioning," still isn't congruent with the poorly regulated, massacre-rich gun situation of today.
sarisataka
(21,340 posts)-What is the school's dress code?
-if such attire is prohibited by the code, how have other violators been treated- better, equal or worse than he was treated?
Free speech is on your time; schools may limit it on their time.
gejohnston
(17,502 posts)free speech all the time. I don't believe in BoR free zones.
Your second question is a valid one. Political bias should be treated like religious bias. Any discrimination/indoctrination should result in immediate and public termination.