Gun Control & RKBA

jpak

(41,780 posts) Mon Mar 14, 2016, 05:52 PM Mar 2016

Sabattus man angry about gun ban in trailer park

http://www.sunjournal.com/news/lewiston-auburn/0001/11/30/sabattus-man-angry-about-gun-ban-trailer-park/1887175#comments

SABATTUS — Ray Carrier has lived at the Oak Hill Trailer Park for the past seven years. Disabled and unable to walk very well, he likes to carry a handgun for safety.

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My biggest worry) is that I will not be able to protect myself," said Carrier, 58.

Daniel Boutin has owned the park for the past 30 years and said he started banning guns from being carried out and around the property years ago — for safety.

"I don't want to have to face a gun on my own property," he said. "I've had issues with tenants."

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Gunz in trailer parks - what could go wrong?

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Sabattus man angry about gun ban in trailer park (Original Post) jpak Mar 2016 OP

"Gunz in trailer parks - what could go wrong?" I dunno, why don't you tell us? friendly_iconoclast Mar 2016 #1

The park owner is a'feared of the gunz owners jpak Mar 2016 #2

Well, actually he isn't- and BTW, your classism is rather noxious: friendly_iconoclast Mar 2016 #3

"nest of half-literate yokels" jpak Mar 2016 #5

Irrational fear of inanimate objects and lack of respect for his adult residents? DonP Mar 2016 #4

A lot of stupid people luvs them some human-killing inanimate objects jpak Mar 2016 #6

Doubling down on the offensive classist stereotypes, I see. Straw Man Mar 2016 #8

Tripling down jpak Mar 2016 #10

Well, it's good that you can be honest about your classism. Straw Man Mar 2016 #12

Gun nuts are so superior jpak Mar 2016 #13

Yes, apparently that's true ... Straw Man Mar 2016 #14

Another gun control proponent going full rubio. beevul Mar 2016 #26

Some really stupid, lazy and cheap people whine online about how horrible they are ... DonP Mar 2016 #9

I like to watch jpak Mar 2016 #11

So, you really don't do anything to support your "belief" on gun control DonP Mar 2016 #15

I "belief" that gun control is fucking cool and would give u a sad jpak Mar 2016 #17

Thank you - now continue to cling jpak Mar 2016 #22

Happily so, qualified 6 new Illinois CCW permit holders Saturday DonP Mar 2016 #23

Good for you jpak Mar 2016 #24

Except for regular practice, so do I and any other instructor DonP Mar 2016 #25

...and insult. And proclaim an evidence-free superiority over gun owners. friendly_iconoclast Mar 2016 #16

and the gun nutz are the Morlocks jpak Mar 2016 #18

The Eloi were stupid, easily led, exploited (and eaten) by the Morlocks... friendly_iconoclast Mar 2016 #19

Your analogy speaks volumes about gun nutz jpak Mar 2016 #20

Jpak, that's the reason the gun control outlook is a sprawling failure: "(You) like to warch." Eleanors38 Mar 2016 #21

Simple answer...move from this fucksticks park. ileus Mar 2016 #7

So you believe that income is strictly correlated with moral character, I take it? benEzra Mar 2016 #27

friendly_iconoclast

(15,333 posts)

1. "Gunz in trailer parks - what could go wrong?" I dunno, why don't you tell us?

Reply to jpak (Original post)

Mon Mar 14, 2016, 06:22 PM

Mar 2016

jpak

(41,780 posts)

2. The park owner is a'feared of the gunz owners

Reply to friendly_iconoclast (Reply #1)

Mon Mar 14, 2016, 06:24 PM

Mar 2016

can you tell us why?

friendly_iconoclast

(15,333 posts)

3. Well, actually he isn't- and BTW, your classism is rather noxious:

Reply to jpak (Reply #2)

Mon Mar 14, 2016, 06:29 PM

Mar 2016

Found at the link you gave:

Boutin said he hasn't heard from any tenants upset about the rule. He said he's a Second Amendment advocate himself, but he believes the rule gives him the backing he needs in case a tenant ever becomes a nuisance with a gun.

"If a man takes a .22 out and he shoots a coyote eating his cat, I'm not going to evict him for that," Boutin said. "If a man takes his gun out and shoots the tire out of an individual that drove by fast, I'm going to evict him. You can see the difference. But what do I do, do I take a full page and explain this? It's easier to be simple, say 'no guns,' and take it on a case-by-case basis."

Not exactly the nest of half-literate yokels you made it out to be-but then again,
cultural warfare requires ugly stereotypes...

jpak

(41,780 posts)

5. "nest of half-literate yokels"

Reply to friendly_iconoclast (Reply #3)

Mon Mar 14, 2016, 06:43 PM

Mar 2016

your words - not mine...

DonP

(6,185 posts)

4. Irrational fear of inanimate objects and lack of respect for his adult residents?

Reply to jpak (Reply #2)

Mon Mar 14, 2016, 06:32 PM

Mar 2016

Is one reason with a high probability.

Lots of really stupid people fear inanimate objects.

Just like lots of stupid people think crime if up, when it's really at a 30 year low and still dropping.

Or is the goal just to make fun of people in trailer parks from a pathetic elitist POV?

jpak

(41,780 posts)

6. A lot of stupid people luvs them some human-killing inanimate objects

Reply to DonP (Reply #4)

Mon Mar 14, 2016, 06:45 PM

Mar 2016

yup

Straw Man

(6,799 posts)

8. Doubling down on the offensive classist stereotypes, I see.

Reply to jpak (Reply #6)

Mon Mar 14, 2016, 09:44 PM

Mar 2016

A lot of stupid people luvs them some human-killing inanimate objects

yup

Do you do it on purpose, or are you truly that tone deaf?

jpak

(41,780 posts)

10. Tripling down

Reply to Straw Man (Reply #8)

Mon Mar 14, 2016, 10:09 PM

Mar 2016

what?

Straw Man

(6,799 posts)

12. Well, it's good that you can be honest about your classism.

Reply to jpak (Reply #10)

Mon Mar 14, 2016, 10:12 PM

Mar 2016

But why people somehow feel that it's more defensible than racism or sexism is a mystery to me.

jpak

(41,780 posts)

13. Gun nuts are so superior

Reply to Straw Man (Reply #12)

Mon Mar 14, 2016, 10:15 PM

Mar 2016

cuz they own teh gunz - and have small hands...

Straw Man

(6,799 posts)

14. Yes, apparently that's true ...

Reply to jpak (Reply #13)

Mon Mar 14, 2016, 10:37 PM

Mar 2016

Gun nuts are so superior

cuz they own teh gunz - and have small hands...

Not for the reasons you mention, but simply by looking at the nature and level of discourse.

beevul

(12,194 posts)

26. Another gun control proponent going full rubio.

Reply to jpak (Reply #13)

Wed Mar 16, 2016, 02:29 AM

Mar 2016

Yup.

DonP

(6,185 posts)

9. Some really stupid, lazy and cheap people whine online about how horrible they are ...

Reply to jpak (Reply #6)

Mon Mar 14, 2016, 09:49 PM

Mar 2016

... and never get around to doing anything in the real world about it.

So, how has your work on repealing concealed carry going for you?

I thought you'd at least have it repealed in at least one state by now. Those repeal petitions still circulating out there?

Share some of your "Activism" success stories, or not.

Of course, you're not just another of those whiny gun control "Keyboard Kommandos", right?

You probably write checks, meet with legislators and go to gun control group meetings all the time, just like all your friends in the Gun Control group do.

jpak

(41,780 posts)

11. I like to watch

Reply to DonP (Reply #9)

Mon Mar 14, 2016, 10:10 PM

Mar 2016

DonP

(6,185 posts)

15. So, you really don't do anything to support your "belief" on gun control

Reply to jpak (Reply #11)

Mon Mar 14, 2016, 10:38 PM

Mar 2016

Pretty much what we expected.

But on the plus side that pretty much puts you in the top 1 percent for gun control activism. You probably even qualify to be one of the many, many, vanishing hosts for the other "committed" gun control group.

Also helps explain the roaring success that gun control has become and why your words and posts should always be given all the credibility they deserve.

Keep up the good work.

jpak

(41,780 posts)

17. I "belief" that gun control is fucking cool and would give u a sad

Reply to DonP (Reply #15)

Mon Mar 14, 2016, 11:08 PM

Mar 2016

Obama...er....Hillary will take yer gunz....

B afear'd

jpak

(41,780 posts)

22. Thank you - now continue to cling

Reply to DonP (Reply #15)

Tue Mar 15, 2016, 05:27 PM

Mar 2016

DonP

(6,185 posts)

23. Happily so, qualified 6 new Illinois CCW permit holders Saturday

Reply to jpak (Reply #22)

Tue Mar 15, 2016, 05:38 PM

Mar 2016

And starting 2 new class groups this week.

But you can "watch" if you want to, they have observation rooms for folks like you.

jpak

(41,780 posts)

24. Good for you

Reply to DonP (Reply #23)

Tue Mar 15, 2016, 05:55 PM

Mar 2016

Hope they never use their gunz - ever.

DonP

(6,185 posts)

25. Except for regular practice, so do I and any other instructor

Reply to jpak (Reply #24)

Tue Mar 15, 2016, 05:57 PM

Mar 2016

friendly_iconoclast

(15,333 posts)

16. ...and insult. And proclaim an evidence-free superiority over gun owners.

Reply to jpak (Reply #11)

Mon Mar 14, 2016, 10:40 PM

Mar 2016

Don't get me wrong, I wouldn't want you to change; people with attitudes like yours
are exactly the reason gun control is in retreat most places in the US.

You lot are the Eloi of modern politics.

jpak

(41,780 posts)

18. and the gun nutz are the Morlocks

Reply to friendly_iconoclast (Reply #16)

Mon Mar 14, 2016, 11:11 PM

Mar 2016

Don't get me wrong...

friendly_iconoclast

(15,333 posts)

19. The Eloi were stupid, easily led, exploited (and eaten) by the Morlocks...

Reply to jpak (Reply #18)

Mon Mar 14, 2016, 11:22 PM

Mar 2016

...without ever realizing what was really happening to them.

So yes, calling gun control advocates 'Eloi' is entirely appropriate...

jpak

(41,780 posts)

20. Your analogy speaks volumes about gun nutz

Reply to friendly_iconoclast (Reply #19)

Mon Mar 14, 2016, 11:32 PM

Mar 2016

troglodyte cannibals

yup

Eleanors38

(18,318 posts)

21. Jpak, that's the reason the gun control outlook is a sprawling failure: "(You) like to warch."

Reply to jpak (Reply #11)

Tue Mar 15, 2016, 01:09 PM

Mar 2016

ileus

(15,396 posts)

7. Simple answer...move from this fucksticks park.

Reply to jpak (Original post)

Mon Mar 14, 2016, 07:28 PM

Mar 2016

If he doesn't respect your right to self defense tell him to fuck off.

benEzra

(12,148 posts)

27. So you believe that income is strictly correlated with moral character, I take it?

Reply to jpak (Original post)

Wed Mar 16, 2016, 05:37 PM

Mar 2016

And there should be an income test before you are allowed to own a gun? The working class need not apply?

FWIW, I used to live in a trailer park, the first year after I graduated from college and while my then-wife was still in school. I suppose we wouldn't have been considered "your kind" then; not enough green in our pockets.

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