Gun Control & RKBA

Nuclear Unicorn

(19,497 posts) Thu Mar 3, 2016, 03:54 PM Mar 2016

NY Assembly Bill A09340

A09340 Summary:

BILL NO A09340

SAME AS No Same as

SPONSOR Simon

COSPNSR Jaffee, Gottfried, Lavine

MLTSPNSR Dinowitz

Amd §270.00, Pen L

Relates to the sale of ammunition for assault weapons; class E felony.

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A09340 Actions:
BILL NO A09340

02/23/2016 referred to codes

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A09340 Text:

STATE OF NEW YORK

9340

IN ASSEMBLY

February 23, 2016
___________

Introduced by M. of A. SIMON -- read once and referred to the Committee
on Codes

AN ACT to amend the penal law, in relation to the sale of ammunition for
assault weapons

The People of the State of New York, represented in Senate and Assem-
bly, do enact as follows:

1 Section 1. Subdivision 4 of section 270.00 of the penal law, as
2 amended by chapter 180 of the laws of 1997, is amended to read as
3 follows:
4 4. Sales of ammunition not prohibited. Nothing contained in this
5 section shall be construed to prevent, or interfere in any way with, the
6 sale of ammunition for revolvers or pistols of any kind, or for rifles,
7 shot guns, or other arms, belonging or which may belong to any persons
8 whether as sporting or hunting weapons or for the purpose of protection
9 to them in their homes, or, as they may go abroad; and manufacturers are
10 authorized to continue to manufacture, and wholesalers and dealers to
11 continue to deal in and freely to sell ammunition to all such persons
12 for such purposes. Provided, however, the sale of ammunition for assault
13 weapons, as defined by subdivision twenty-two of section 265.00 of this
14 title, shall be limited to two times the capacity of an authorized weap-
15 on over a one hundred twenty day period. For purposes of this subdivi-
16 sion, "authorized weapon" shall mean a weapon registered in accordance
17 with subdivision sixteen-a of section 400.00 of this chapter. Notwith-
18 standing any law, rule or regulation to the contrary, the violation of
19 this subdivision shall constitute a class E felony.
20 § 2. This act shall take effect immediately.

http://assembly.state.ny.us/leg/?default_fld=%0D%0A&bn=A9340&term=&Summary=Y&Actions=Y&Text=Y

It's my understanding that the ammunition used by so-called assault weapons will also work with numerous guns that would not fit the definition of "assault weapon."

How would the seller know which type of weapon the ammunition is being bought for?

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NY Assembly Bill A09340 (Original Post) Nuclear Unicorn Mar 2016 OP

If the owner has 25 mags holding 100 rounds each... discntnt_irny_srcsm Mar 2016 #1

NY has a ten-round mag limit. Straw Man Mar 2016 #5

re: "NY has a ten-round mag limit" discntnt_irny_srcsm Mar 2016 #6

The limit. Straw Man Mar 2016 #7

There are a number of stupid, impractical and meaningless new york laws: discntnt_irny_srcsm Mar 2016 #8

Yup. Straw Man Mar 2016 #9

No wonder reality TV doesn't film in PA: discntnt_irny_srcsm Mar 2016 #11

Two mags worth every four months? This guy is an idiot. nt hack89 Mar 2016 #2

The less you handle a weapon the less you become proficient. Nuclear Unicorn Mar 2016 #3

SAFETY LAST --- FTFY discntnt_irny_srcsm Mar 2016 #4

Well that sucks sarisataka Mar 2016 #10

"Nothing... shall be construed" to prevent clean, sun-dried bedding... Eleanors38 Mar 2016 #12

discntnt_irny_srcsm

(18,602 posts)

1. If the owner has 25 mags holding 100 rounds each...

Reply to Nuclear Unicorn (Original post)

Thu Mar 3, 2016, 04:00 PM

Mar 2016

...that sounds like 5,000 rounds every 4 months.

Straw Man

(6,799 posts)

5. NY has a ten-round mag limit.

Reply to discntnt_irny_srcsm (Reply #1)

Fri Mar 4, 2016, 05:58 AM

Mar 2016

That means that the gun's "capacity" is ten rounds. In other words, you can buy 20 rounds every four months.

The interesting question is what constitutes "ammunition for an assault weapon." Given that there are "non-assault weapons" in every caliber used by "assault weapons," one can only assume they would use the SAFE Act's registry of assault weapons to determine who can buy one box of .223 every four months and who can buy as much as he/she wants. Ammunition sellers then would have to be given access to that registry -- the one that we were told was going to be so benign -- to use as a tool in denying or limiting sales. Such a scenario is highly unlikely, since the background-check-for-ammo provision of the SAFE Act has already been shelved as an expensive boondoggle.

When they first floated this piece of dreck, the intention was to apply it to all firearms. Five-shot snubnose? You get ten rounds. Double-barreled shotgun? You get four. Save up your allotment for two years and you'll have almost enough to shoot one round of trap or skeet.

I can't imagine that the people who dream this stuff up actually think it is in any way reasonable or even potentially effective. They're just casting around for anything they can think of to fuck with gun owners.

discntnt_irny_srcsm

(18,602 posts)

6. re: "NY has a ten-round mag limit"

Reply to Straw Man (Reply #5)

Fri Mar 4, 2016, 08:42 AM

Mar 2016

That refers only to what you are allowed to insert into the firearm. I don't read anything that artificially limits the "actual" capacity.

There's a rather famous Democrat who had something to say about peaceful revolution.
The "people who dream this stuff up" are uninformed unthinking morons.
They should flush themselves.

Straw Man

(6,799 posts)

7. The limit.

Reply to discntnt_irny_srcsm (Reply #6)

Fri Mar 4, 2016, 12:19 PM

Mar 2016

re: "NY has a ten-round mag limit"

That refers only to what you are allowed to insert into the firearm. I don't read anything that artificially limits the "actual" capacity.

No, it actually refers to what you are allowed to own. In NY it's illegal to own a magazine with a capacity of over ten rounds, even if you don't own a firearm.