Gun Control & RKBA
Related: About this forumTrigger Warnings
Just this month, you might have heard about the Brooklyn teenager who was killed while playing a video game, or the Florida teenager who was killed when his gun-toting cousin lost his balance on a hover board, or the Michigan woman who was killed on Valentines Day by a .45 her boyfriend had left on their bed.
In a country of more than 320 million people and at least as many guns, a handful of such shootings every day does not amount to much, except of course to those involved. Even when they reach into the thousands, as they do most years, unintentional shootings are statistically invisible when viewed against other causes of death and injury.
Yet the stories told of gun accidents echo far beyond each isolated shot. They are tales of misfortune and warning, recounted either as lamentations on the vagaries of fate, or condemnations of carelessness, with hints of schadenfreude when the shooter and the shot are one and the same. We rarely talk about them the way we talk about other accidents, with a wince or a shrug depending on how closely the lives affected resemble our own, but as fables with lessons to impart.
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/02/28/opinion/sunday/trigger-warnings.html
rjsquirrel
(4,762 posts)Unless it's a kid or an innocent stranger involved I tend to laugh when grownups "accidentally" shoot themselves or their friends.
Add 'em all up nutters, and far more people are injured in GunFail pratfalls than criminals are stopped by righteous civilians with Big Pieces.
Anyway it's all about male inadequacy let's be honest.
Nuclear Unicorn
(19,497 posts)rjsquirrel
(4,762 posts)Or is it gunnutters who are trying to get hard?
You seem to think I'm trying to persuade you. I'm not. I'm mocking gun fetishism. Laughing at it. So I guess I'm laughing too hard.
Lol and ignored.
Nuclear Unicorn
(19,497 posts)There's a term for those who have no interest in debate or dialogue but only seek to disrupt.
Have you made an effort to discuss or did you just barge in and start slinging your misogynistic and sexual insults?
theatre goon
(87 posts)...when they come right out and admit that they have no intention of engaging in any adult, substantive discussion, doesn't it?
Nuclear Unicorn
(19,497 posts)Dolls with buggy eyes and tall spires of brightly colored hair.
ileus
(15,396 posts)Nuclear Unicorn
(19,497 posts)When coupled with hyper-sexual imagery it tends to show difficulty in personal relationships.
beevul
(12,194 posts)And he/she doesn't hide it well at all.
Nuclear Unicorn
(19,497 posts)Then he'll finally decide to make his move so he comes over and introduces himself and/or offers you a drink. He'll make his best opening line and just waits for you to swoon into his arms.
But if you turn him down after he's dedicated so much attention to you he explodes in anger, screams that you're a dyke and won't go away until someone else intervenes.
As if that somehow strengthens his case/changes your mind. He's just spouting off out of misplaced sense of self but it makes you realize you really dodged a bad deal.
ileus
(15,396 posts)My two favorite life saving carry pistols are the Shield and LCP....now before you say it, yes I know the 380 is only good for "girls and squirrels" but because it's so easily carried in the pocket the 380acp is still a great little cartridge.
Now I also know many folks don't trust the 124g 9mm to save lives, but IMHO it's easier to get accurate hits and follow up hits with. So for me and my family we're 9mm'ers.
Anyway the easiest way to not accidentally shoot anyone is finger off the trigger.
Safety First as I always say.
The penile projection always takes the form of dropping brand names and calibers and actions and talking gun tech. I don't believe it most of the time and suspect these are wannabe soldier types.
"Yeah that's right I always carry my Sieg Mauser .49 cal full auto with extended carburetor cooling in my boot dude, but I keep my Sterling Super 90 ought 9 with advanced penis pumping action on my hip."
Lol whut. "Big piece" was a reference to the nutter need for a gun as a fetish penis.
You know how you can tell that's what's going on? When they get all exact about what guns they claim to own and how expert they are on minor details of firearm trivia.
Protip: most people who brag about owning specific guns are lying. Same thing you see on computer and car sites, and other sites of impotent masculine over-compensation. Somehow everyone on a guitar site owns a vintage Fender and everyone on the car forums has a 1972 Dodge Charger.
People who actually own nice things tend not to brag about them in specific terms. So when a nutter shows up saying "you idiot don't you know an early-70s SpringfieldEnfield .44 cal field rifle has interchangeable froooomus guides" remember: the person saying it is overcompensating for a small package.
Nuclear Unicorn
(19,497 posts)You claim it's someone who sexualizes guns but gun ownership is no more gun sexualization than car ownership is car sexualization. Obviously some may sexualize guns and cars but those are rarities. You, however, apply the term without discrimination.
discntnt_irny_srcsm
(18,602 posts)Not the kind, just the old fashioned 'oh that one, I'm not reading their nonsense' kind.
DonP
(6,185 posts)And with the crappy tackle box he's working from he won't catch much but some seaweed in his limping little tiny propellor.
I smell a smelly old sock somewhere.
Almost like someone that has been banned is coming back to get even with those mean old gun people, at any cost.
ileus
(15,396 posts)Straw Man
(6,799 posts)The reference was to several notable small pistols. Not exactly what one would choose for a fetish penis, whut?
Do tell, Dr. Freud. And from what life experiences have you gleaned that particular piece of specious "wisdom"?
TeddyR
(2,493 posts)From people shooting themselves. Real progressive of you. But about what I'd expect based on your other childish posts.
beardown
(363 posts)So folks that may not own guns, but have friends that do when they accidentally get shot by their friends is funny to you.
So you either give criminal women or irresponsible women gun owners a free pass or perhaps you assume all women gun owners really want to be men.
Wow, the lack of human compassion and progressive thought coming from a gun confiscation person is, well, all too often expected.
Given your lack of self control and progressive thought I can at least understand your fear of putting a gun in, well, your hands.
Keep up the poorly thought out insults. I'm sure this tactic works well for you in changing the minds of folks that you disagree with.
Straw Man
(6,799 posts)Nope. Sorry.
-- http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/9/17/1238623/-Defensive-Gun-Use-The-CDC-Report-on-Gun-Violence
Compare the DOJ's figure above with 16,864 non-fatal gun injuries in 2013. (Start here -- http://webappa.cdc.gov/sasweb/ncipc/nfirates2001.html -- and select filters UNINTENTIONAL >> FIREARM >> 2013.)
"Far more"? No. Not even "more". Fewer, actually: far fewer.
Eleanors38
(18,318 posts)"Yet the stories.... echo far beyond each individual shot."
The echo bounces between NYT, WaPO, AP, NPR, MJ and back again, so quell surprise.
"We... talk about them as fables with lessons to impart."
Peculiar reasoning, since accidents via guns, and childhood accidents via guns have fallen dramatically, even as the population AND the number of guns has increased beyond significantly. No fable, here. But if the NYT wants to move from the poetic to the prosaic, it might look at the gun-owner-supported movement to use trigger lock and safes.