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Related: About this forumOn this day in 585 BC, the eclipse of Thales, the earliest event of which the precise date is known, occurred.
I don't think the concept of "May" existed in 585 BC, so it's pretty much an artificial contrivance to say that this eclipse happened on May 28, 585 BC.
So, happy birthday, science, maybe.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/May_28
585 BC A solar eclipse occurs, as predicted by the Greek philosopher and scientist Thales, while Alyattes is battling Cyaxares in the Battle of the Eclipse, leading to a truce. This is one of the cardinal dates from which other dates can be calculated. It is also the earliest event of which the precise date is known.
Eclipse of Thales
Eclipse occurred 28 May 585 BC
The eclipse of Thales was a solar eclipse that was, according to ancient Greek historian Herodotus, accurately predicted by the Greek philosopher Thales of Miletus. If Herodotus' account is accurate, this eclipse is the earliest recorded as being known in advance of its occurrence. Many historians believe that the predicted eclipse was the solar eclipse of 28 May 585 BC. How exactly Thales predicted the eclipse remains uncertain; some scholars assert the eclipse was never predicted at all. Others have argued for different dates, but only the eclipse of May 585 BC matches the conditions of visibility necessary to explain the historical event.
According to Herodotus, the appearance of the eclipse was interpreted as an omen, and interrupted a battle in a long-standing war between the Medes and the Lydians. American writer Isaac Asimov described this battle as the earliest historical event whose date is known with precision to the day, and called the prediction "the birth of science".
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Eclipse occurred 28 May 585 BC
The eclipse of Thales was a solar eclipse that was, according to ancient Greek historian Herodotus, accurately predicted by the Greek philosopher Thales of Miletus. If Herodotus' account is accurate, this eclipse is the earliest recorded as being known in advance of its occurrence. Many historians believe that the predicted eclipse was the solar eclipse of 28 May 585 BC. How exactly Thales predicted the eclipse remains uncertain; some scholars assert the eclipse was never predicted at all. Others have argued for different dates, but only the eclipse of May 585 BC matches the conditions of visibility necessary to explain the historical event.
According to Herodotus, the appearance of the eclipse was interpreted as an omen, and interrupted a battle in a long-standing war between the Medes and the Lydians. American writer Isaac Asimov described this battle as the earliest historical event whose date is known with precision to the day, and called the prediction "the birth of science".
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On this day in 585 BC, the eclipse of Thales, the earliest event of which the precise date is known, occurred. (Original Post)
mahatmakanejeeves
May 2024
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no_hypocrisy
(49,192 posts)1. Serious WOW!!
Voltaire2
(14,869 posts)2. The Babylonians would like a word.
Last edited Tue May 28, 2024, 08:28 AM - Edit history (1)
Thales likely learned of the Saros Cycle from Babylonian sources. They had been predicting eclipses for a century or two before Thales.
THE SAROS AND THE ANCIENTS
Babylonian astronomers discovered the saros cycle around the 7th or 8th century B.C. They were keen observers and kept meticulous records of astronomical events for hundreds of years on clay tablets. This allowed them to recognize the saros pattern in both solar and lunar eclipses. They used the saros to predict future eclipses, which they also recorded on clay tablets.
https://skyandtelescope.org/astronomy-news/how-did-the-ancients-predicted-eclipses-the-saros-cycle/
Timeflyer
(2,722 posts)3. Science---cool.