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Uncle Joe

(60,265 posts) Tue Mar 19, 2024, 04:45 PM Mar 2024

'Don't talk about history': how Jared Kushner crafted his Middle East 'peace' plan

Tue 28 Jan 2020 02.30 EST

Trump calls his son-in-law’s proposals – which will be presented Tuesday – the ‘ultimate deal’ for Israel and Palestine

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Kushner decided to deal with the problem of history intruding on talks by engineering a proposed settlement to the Israeli-Palestinian crisis without negotiations or even really talking to one of the parties.

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The make up of Kushner’s team was an early clue to where it the process was headed. It included David Friedman, a lawyer with close ties to the Jewish settler movement in the occupied territories who Trump appointed as US ambassador to Israel. Friedman has questioned the need for a Palestinian state and likened members of a liberal US Jewish group to Nazi collaborators for their criticism of the Israeli government’s actions.

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“I said to Jared you’re not going to fix this because the problem is not the United States. You can make it worse but you’re going to have a hard time making it better because what needs to be done can’t be done by the United States. It requires fundamental decisions by the Israelis and Palestinians. Neither side is prepared to make them. They lack leaders who are capable of making them,” he said.

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“I told Jared you’re going to put out a plan that meets the needs or requirements of only one side. And I said that’s a serious problem because American credibility and integrity is also on the table. Not just American politics and re-election of Donald Trump,” he said.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/jan/27/jared-kushner-israel-palestine-peace-plan

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'Don't talk about history': how Jared Kushner crafted his Middle East 'peace' plan (Original Post) Uncle Joe Mar 2024 OP

Tunnel underpants Mar 2024 #1

A plan Uncle Joe Mar 2024 #2

Wait a minute... slightlv Mar 2024 #3

underpants

(187,331 posts)

1. Tunnel

Reply to Uncle Joe (Original post)

Tue Mar 19, 2024, 04:54 PM

Mar 2024

When I saw his big plan included a tunnel between Gaza and the West Bank, that told me everything I needed to know. It could have been a rail line and fenced highway but they proposed a tunnel. The Israel’s don’t even want to have to SEE Palestinians.

Uncle Joe

(60,265 posts)

2. A plan

Reply to underpants (Reply #1)

Tue Mar 19, 2024, 05:02 PM

Mar 2024

wherein one of the parties isn't even consulted is not designed to succeed.

You can't buy or sell real estate with just one party of the transaction signing a contract.

The only question is my mind is whether Hamas; via back channels was purposely encouraged to attack Israel on October 7th?

One thing is for sure, *rump's state department didn't even know what Kushner was up to as he traversed all over the Gulf.

slightlv

(4,439 posts)

3. Wait a minute...

Reply to Uncle Joe (Original post)

Tue Mar 19, 2024, 10:49 PM

Mar 2024

he's going to present the plan on Tuesday (today?)... present it to whom? Representing who? This would be a major policy ask, and I would think would have to be cleared through the White House. No matter how much they want to seem otherwise, *rump is not a president-in-exile. We only have one president at a time, and Trump ain't it. How in the hell can his son-in-law present any kind of policy statement... let alone an ask to develop Gaza shoreline with luxury hotels?! Give me a break! Just a few years ago, this would have been so illegal as to have Jared stopped at an airport and escorted to a jail, while waiting to talk to Pres. Biden and his Secret Service, not to mention many of the 3-initial departments! SMDH!

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